Su-30MK2 is not uniquely powerful

DL is still very useful for actually putting pressure on people at longer ranges so you’re not stuck being defensive all the time while they close the distance

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Alright do you don’t understand how DL works, great that we established that, I’ll point you towards Migan fox 3 as a good explanation of defensive flying and radar mechanics 👍

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I mean the F-15C GE only has it’s radar going for it, so fixing that should be a priority. It won’t suddenly make it a good 14.3, but it would at least make it less frustrating to play.

I think if you want to move up the J-11A and Su-30MK2 you would need to look at 13.0-13.3 as a whole, as they are far from the only questionable BR placements. Like if we move these 2 up the F-16D for example should definitely follow them to 13.7.

If J-11A had something other than R-77 i would absolutely agree with you. But with this missile there is no pressure to be had, at least not against someone who isn’t a little Timmy that bough shiny new top tier premium and asks in the chat how to use a radar

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ok well you’re free to fly towards an r77, tell me how it works out for u

why would i fly towards R-77? It is not the hardest missile to just avoid, unless it’s fired at 20km or closer.

ngl r77 are dog, would prob work out well

You can notch so late against R-77s I love it, literally no counterplay for the other guy since i’ve had an extra 5-10 seconds to DL my AMRAAM/Derby/PL-12/MICA his way

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Speaking of notching… MiG-35 is gonna be so fun, 85 deg gimbal limit and 77-1s will be such a good combo

Same with J-10 C i am pretty sure

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J-10C will prob end up at a higher br, I am hoping for 14.0 for the 35 since only 8 aam and mediocre fm

Nah the AESA is fixed so worse gimbal limits (due to not having a gimbal), it’ll be an amazing radar though, very modern AESA

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Did tbey ever uprate the engines on the 35, or are they still rd33s?

Eh I doubt that the MiG-35 would be below 14.3, you can already see how much Gaijin values ESA radars even if they implement them barely functional (F-15C GE).

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They prob wait for every nation to have one, same with the some of the electronic blocks on tanks

rd33 serie 3s afaik

33 MKs. Same as on 29Ks

Someone with sense.

The su27sm is 13.7 with more and better everything.
J11b - better everything

J11a worst 13.7. J11a worst 13.3.
F16a worst 12.3 (game is not 1v1)
Reality is theres nowhere good for it to go

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People overrate the j11b. J11a is about as good as j11b/even better in its missiles and su30mk2 also shares this chateristic. In an average match j11a low k might be even better than j11b because r77s are better than pl12s

You just poked the hornets nest with that one.