oh welp that backfired, there are two ppl with your named with diffrent capitalization. Now thats emberessing
You can´t really put it at the same BR as the J11B which is just SO much better in every aspect. Better engines, better missiles, better radar, better rwr, etc
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yes and no. Yes because 12.3 don’t deserve to face Flanker with 6 solid Fox-3s, no because you already said why. Imo it’s better to make J-11A struggle than entire 12.3 bracket struggle. We also could move J-11B to 14.0 alongside F-15C, Su-27SM and such, as i said in the comment.
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This will not happen. It is foldered with the J11 so people will just not research it.
I just started spading it when it went to 13.3 (i have the entire chinese tt). It was just never even an option to play it before
To the same BR as the mirage 2000s? We just need another boost of decompression :sob:
J-11A isn’t oppressive enough to warrant a higher BR, the single datalink channel, god awful RWR and mediocre missiles are comfortably 13.3 material, it’s definitely better than the F-16s at the br in terms of overall package, but it lacks in avionics.
J-11B is better in literally every other aspect at it (within the realms of compression) is a fairly standard 13.7, so logically there is no way the J-11A can go up
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Also since the br changes the Winrate of the J11a increased by 2% and is dropping again. The K/S is still negative
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Datalink channel is irrelevant since it doesn’t have a Fox-3 missile capable of travelling past pitbull range anyway. R-77s are not mediocre. They might not be as cracked as 77-1s or have a reach of AMRAAM, but they are very potent in HMD range at almost any reasonable aspect you might launch them and especially deadly from topdown attacks. Avionics - sure it is lacking. But you can work around it, even if it’s an additional hassle. Not every jet can be or should be a META pick.
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They are the worst fox 3 in-game (excluding phoenix and fakour as they are smth else)
Derby and R-Darter exist you know.
Highly competitive missiles btw
These missiles are INSANE at short-medium range
So are R-77s. I have more than 1k kills with Su-27SM, i speak from the experience.
Datalink is what allows you to guide a missile through an enemy defense, making notching significantly harder (for someone called gitgood you should know this), meaning multiple DL channels is a signifigant for launching on multiple targets, regardless of range.
Which is why the J-11A is 13.3 instead if 13.7
For fox-3s it only works if target is multipathing and you are above it (for someon who tries to call people out on their nicknames you should know this).
Eh? DL has practically no effect on a multipathing target what are you on about
I can also make the r-77s work, they are still just worse then the r-darta for example at basically everything that isn’t long range
Check the sensor view in a replay. It says when missile is using DL correction and when it doesn’t
Right, but DL is helping the missile get a good solution and lead, however it’s not doing anything to bypass multipathing, that’s all the missile’s kinematics doing
depends on the plane tbh
esp the russian stuff that have the giga radar angles and can lock at like 80 deg benefit more from it compared to nato stuff that have 50-60 deg which is also the amraam’s gimbal limit
With R-77 you aren’t gonna use DL much, if target is at R-77 effective range you either instantly gonna into a notch, or you are shooting some zomber and at this point DL pretty much irrelevant.
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