can confirm. flying low doesn’t even work most of the time. at least from my limited “top” tier experience
didnt say you should rely but sure. you can survive more doing multipath with plane that have low cms that actualy try to notch. also were talking about 13.0 to 14.0, i guess now we switched to top tier somehow
do you have alt acount by any chance ?
That is just plainly incorrect
I never switched
And sometimes this type of enemy starts attacking you at multipath altitude:

I got my wing clipped in f14b because actual hitbox touched tree and it made me think: hold on, people pay 70 or 80 us dollars for premium variant that is also plagued by this bug
you’re better off notching simply because you actually have room to manouver.
flying low means you sacrifice how much space you get, your range (fuel efficiency and missile range) as well as the top speed you can achieve
You’re also more likely to get datalinked by Fox-3s from higher up
oh I can’t even count how many times I’ve hit that 15.0 SPAA lmao. not to mention their not so polished hit boxes on a lot of the maps

not me getting killed countless times exactly because of DL when I didn’t know they could do that
that depend of your position in the map right ?
if you got on the sside doing the high speed suprise attack. you will have room to actualy notch.
abd i am not saying to multipatch in close range. in 30km bvr. you can just go down, lose the misssile and re engage. and maps are not all flat. some actualy have cover.
of course you didnt. your just got to rank 8
flanking?
Also often that just ends up with you not getting many kills or getting swarmed because you were too passive
This is a scenario that’s nigh irrelevant to worry about.

that was what i was talking about. idk how you were thinking i was talking about multipathing in a 18km shot
is it a lie tho ?
I don’t know what planet you live on, but a TON of players don’t know every bit of info even at high/top tiers like nerds. I’d say that MOST of the players at the high tier 7 and tier 8 don’t have an idea what datalink even does
Let me reclarify:
The meta, especially in the 13.3 br range
is close-medium range Fox-3s on aircraft with HMD, decent altitude performance and good countermeasure count.
Su-30MK2/MKK have:
- the best missile kit of the br (R-27ER + R-77 combo WITH 4 extra IR)
- solid radar with HMD (MK2 gets NCTR), you’ll be prioritising HMD anyways
- 98 countermeasures (large calibre), which compared to other aircraft at the same br is one of the best defensive kits you can get.
- doesn’t get BOL/PIDS, but doesn’t lose missile kit either
- is undertiered as fuck
While F-16 has:
- better df fm (not really useful)
- PIDS (you sacrifice some of your already mediocre missile kit for this)
- better radar for searching, not that useful, you’re in HMD mostly anyways.
- worst defensive kit of 13.7 (unless you take PIDS, downside already pointed out)
- mediocre missile kit (even worse with PIDS)
In conclusion:
The Su-30MK2/MKK have more actually useful benefits over the F-16 for 16v16 air rb and is more fit to survive at 13.7 than the F-16 by a MILE
Unlike you, I have experience in both the Su-30MKK, more vehicles in that entire bracket and an equivalent to the 13.7 premium F-16s.
do I mention skill levels?
yeah sure bud you bought yourself to top tier and now you saying how is the game working.
play game for a bit more at least.
didnt deny any of it and i agree with all.