Su-27SM: Ferocious Flanker!

Where do you think they’re taking off from?

certainly not space

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Oh really, wow, but I didn’t know, imagine

Not like the US has Phoenix missiles or anything.
Clearly need a 70g 300km mach 7 missile right now. For, uh, parity.

You mean schizo propaganda gibberish?

Nationalistic confirmation bias carnival. Need I say more?

You will note, of course, that many Ukrainian combat troops have been harshly critical of NATO doctrine as naive and dependent on overwhelming superiority, it has no answer to the realities of peer conflict. Same criticisms of the equipment designed under that doctrine, it’s just not designed for the war in Ukraine. Additionally they also say the training is useless nonsense and they just get lectured about how they’re doing everything wrong, even though they know better.

Instead of listening to the troops with actual experience and learning, just the usual arrogant snide mockery.

Not really surprising from a military organisation created by and in service of colonial powers.

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you’re the one seeming to claim fighter jets can operate without intaking air

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🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️You can’t think with your bowler hat that with increasing altitude, the oxygen content in the air drops and additional fuel is needed to support the fire

what stops the meteor missile from doing this?

The test pilots knew how often and what the pilots in the USSR practiced, there are former USSR pilots on the paralay forum who know what and how often they practiced. And in the post USSR breakup era Russian pilots dropped to 30 hours a year as well, so they would have been utterly destroyed if they got into a skirmish on their MiG 29 and Su 27.

@AUSChalkWarrior already explained, but air is basically 20% oxygen / 80% nitrogen.

Nitrogen is out of the question, since it doesn’t react with fuel, so the only thing left is oxygen. THAT is the oxydizer on Meteor.

it compensates by taking in a lot of oxygen by going fast. Also, note that at these altitude, drag is very limited, so you don’t need to have a lot of thrust to keep your speed up.
Finally, as i said earlier, no vehicle can fly at the altitudes where meteor can’t fly, except for those carrying their own oxydizer (only rockets basically, and maybe a few exotic vehicles here and there, but certainly not jet fighters)

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Test pilots do not know how often the military trains.Don’t tell me any nonsense.Yes, you’re right, in the 90s, the raid was reduced to a minimum

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These guys?
aDDwVXd_460s~2

MiG-31,MiG-25,Tu-160 flight altitude 20-25km
For RAMJET flights above 20 km, oxygen recharge is required.Which is not in the meteor.Since RAMJET does not work the same way as jet engine

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Pretty sure a Phoenix can’t hit a ground target. But ok.

Plus, if you are dying to a Phoenix, that is a skill issue. They are very easy to dodge and don’t work that well.

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Pardon me. I assumed you were speaking of air to air missiles.

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the US D-21 drone equipped with the RAMJET Marquardt RJ43 flew at M3.3 and 27km high in the 60s

I wouldn’t worry that much about meteor’s high altitude performance ^^’

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Was there an oxygen supply?

Pretty sure that had LOX in it. You know, to oxidise the combustible fuel. The thing missing from the Meteor’s schematics.

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This seems to specify that oxidisers are necessary.

this one needs it indeed, my bad.

Found an other one that doesn’t though : RIM-50 Typhoon. Almost 30km of cruise altitude

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It does have a solid propellent booster, but only to get it up to speed. No mention of internal oxydizer anywhere

As for meteor, we know it can at least be fired 13 km high without any issue : Meteor high altitude firing marks next test success | Press Release | MBDA

Funny :D