For…?
Duel. F15A vs Su 27
Have I not already done that?
it is pd radar
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Woops, Read the wiki wrong
Read:
Non Pulse-Doppler radar locks onto chaff easily
as
non pulse doppler radar
My bad
but still, Id give the MLD the point in BVR with R-24Rs
Which will win?
AIM-7E-2 (Gaijin’s favorite missile, moves as fast as a snail) vs R-24R (how the hell did this thing just pull 30gs half a second off the rail)
And you maintain that su27 is better correct? So keep proving youself wrong and duel
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You still stand by this. F15A vs Su 27
The radar on the Su 27s arent great either. If you in your infinite Flanker wisdom can prove it then duel me.
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Yes, it is
Then duel
Absolutely, is there a reason I wouldn’t?
Ah yes, BFM to prove radar strength
You also said BFM. Stop ducking bro
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didnt you know?
better radar makes you better in BFM)
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I said the radar is better in BFM? When did I say that?
BFM duel F15A vs Su 27, then we can switch to BVR fight too if you want even F15C vs. Su 27SM
Prove it
Soft locks will show the target in the HUD which means you don’t have to rely purely on visually acquiring the target. TWS also provides an indication for speed and direction.
Also targets have to populate on the radar in order for them to be hard locked for R-27ER unless you are purely reliant on the HMD and only acquiring targets visually.
The only semi-effective radar mode that the Su-27 has is PD HDN and it’s still very slow to complete it’s scan pattern and give consistent update on radar contacts.
Being able to widen and narrow the search pattern is less functionality?
I can use wide scan mode to have 120 degree of situational awareness in the same time frame that it takes Su-27 to have half of that. Or I can use narrow scan mode to have much more frequent position updates from it and also reduce the number of subsequent enemy RWRs that I am pinging.
HMD does not assist in the detection of targets. You still have to visually acquire them. Having multiple ACM modes is helpful for acquiring close range targets that you know their general location but cannot see.
I.E tall scan mode is pretty good following a merge when maps are dark and enemy target is a small plane against a dark background.
Being able to tell the location and type of aircraft that is pinging you goes beyond just a defensive advantage. Also the Aim-9M is a pretty strong offensive advantage in Air SB.
It wasn’t even very dominant when it was Russia’s highest tiered aircraft in SB. It was still getting destroyed by F-16C without Aim-120, F-15A, Gripen, and Mirage 2000.
The only thing that has changed since then is the radar has gotten worse (double scan), the Gripen flight model has been nerfed (it still wins against everything but can’t just pull full stick back and do it automatically) and multi-pathing was reduced to 60m.
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pssst… Whats BFM?
That’s already been done?
When the hell did either the F-15C or Su-27SM come into this?
With who? Did you win? Did you prove your point that Su 27 is currently better in BFM?
Bro. You’re ducking. You claim the Su 27 is better at BFM, and that it’s radar isn’t lacking. If you stand by those points. Then prove it. I’m waiting
And the Su-27 does just that, with refresh times doing very little to aid. As I’ve been saying multiple times now, you have IRST for a passive track that shows exactly where the enemy is, and they won’t be given any information as to how far away you are nor what kind of aircraft you are… Or even your direction and height.
Ah yes, speed a direction… Two things the F-15A isn’t given by its radar while the Su-27 is.
Is there any reason why they wouldn’t? You don’t need to wait for multiple refreshes on TWS to be able to lock an enemy… You simply acquire and lock.
It’s quite literally TWS but worse.
Not having TWS nor an HMD is less functionality, as well as having it displayed in a worse method.
Neither does ACM, unless you’re simply brute-forcing your way through the map at 19km increments with boresight on.
Do you want to know what else is great for acquiring close-range targets when you know their general location and can’t see them?
IRST!
Also doesn’t give the enemy a hard tone when you lock them… As said before.
Tall scan mode is effective for locking somebody in your control zone, not attempting to find some mystically hidden enemy on a somewhat hard backdrop.
True, though that mostly plays into its defensive capabilities still. It would be quite easy to turn that into an attack, though nowhere near as much as an IRT indication.