Base model 2A7 has no confirmed upgrades over the 2a6 that would be relevant fpr in the game, base one would be a useless addition at that point 2A6EX , 2E, or PSO-VT ,would be better options
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They… they already have?
some of the soviet shells are “diesel soaked” in secondary racks and has a lower risk of exploding. (though Gaijin has implemented this to the shells in the autoloader as well which isn’t comparable to real life). so why wouldn’t they add the same thing to the DM63?
The only thing changed from DM53 to DM63 is the propellant and bottom of the casing. the new propellant has a lower risk of unwanted detonation, isn’t temperature dependant and gives a higher pressure (and thus higher muzzle velocity). The new casing bottom is just to be able to handle the higher pressure.
That feature is exclusive for Russian tanks only.
M338 shell that you can find on Merkava 4 series also does have same feature you can find on DM63 but in game it will explode like any other NATO shell.
Funny thing is Merkava’s does have wet storage and fireproof containers for their ammunition yet they just blow up like a light vehicle in this game.
Pretty sure wet ammo racks only benefit from the fuel reducing / preventing spall so you have to hit a piece of ammo directly to blow it up.
Russian shells also blow up with more or less 100% chance, problem is that the charges pretty much cannot blow up at all and they are also the biggest target of vital parts in a high tier T series.
What? this does not make sense, they blow up att 100% chance but cannot blow up att all at the same time?
Yes, but reducing spalling and reducing the risk off spalling blowing up a shell reduces the total risk of that shell blowing up in general. so you have to hit the ammo directly but on Nato shells you can miss the ammo with the shot and still blow up the ammo. so the total risk in soviet tanks is lower.
The diesel thing yes, but the function of having a lower risk of ammo detonation should NOT be nation exclusive. it should be given to every ammo that has that feature. and every storage compartment that has wet storage should also get it.
i’m just saying that the programming for changes to the risk of ammo exploding already exists and should not be that hard to implement where it should be.
Russian tanks have two piece ammo.
Shells and charges.
Oh i misunderstood, Shells i read as the package of casing and projectile (compare to shotgun shell).
if i understand correctly you use the word shell in the meaning of projectile?
İ agree.
Hopefully we can see some improvements for all tanks in this area.
I tried reporting that, but it was closed down on the basis of “it’s not a mechanic yet”, hence we need to make a suggestion (I tried 3 times, all 3 were also rejected :p).
Yea just like the MUSS, “360° softkill isn’t in game yet”.
Keep in mind that 360° hardkill was already available on the Black Night at the time iirc.
huh, i actually didn’t know this, interesting.
so its more temperature stable, meaning generally higher accuracy but not always higher pressure.
would this create situations in peak summer where DM53 would be preferable because of higher muzzle velocity?
Ah Yes good old excuse from Gaijin that prevents Nato vehicles performs accuretaly.
Meanwhile T series ammo carousel casually eats any sort of damage without any problem.
Working as intended comrade :)
Besides jokes do you think suggestion will change this situation?
We will see, made a new one just a few minutes ago - sadly PDF files cannot be uploaded to the forum for some reason.
Why are you talking out of your ass?
And yes better 2A6(in-game) is coming
they did specify what they are upgading so they could add it before it actually come to the swedish army since they know whats new about it.
thats not how it works lol, you cant add vehicles that dont exist at all just into the game. Their could always be changes to the order or last minute changes, like norwegian canceling 2a7no orders and switching to 2a8
For now Sweden is gotta need to take the L, that is just a fact