haha nice. Im picking my way down the Italian tree as having either A) 11.3 Tornado IDS with Mk103s or B) 11.7 Tornado IDS with Mk103s and Boz-ECs looks like quite good fun. Definetly both in better overall state than the GR1 at the moment.
and Yeah, SB is usually where i’d play them
U have no guns if u use 4 missiles, CM are already integranted in the plane.
My bad on that, thoguht you needed to run a BOZ pod for CMs on the AJS37.
But still. There is further limitations to it, especially if you want to run any ground attack weapons.
Yeah but whatever the AJ37 is just too good for 11.0, it has great FM, engine, OP 30mm that aren’t sooo hard to aim and 2 RB 74s in case u need it.
I just need some planes more to reach rank 6 with that amazing J29F with afterburner and AIM-9Bs at 9.0 if i’m right.
Tbh I don’t know, I just flew the first IDS, never touched the other ones, but I saw they have guided weapons and I don’t know how to use those in sim yet
Its fairly easy, the Tornado has quite a decent HUD for it, just operate a lot like you would with dropping bombs with CCRP
If you don’t like the Tornado IDS at 11.3, get ready for surprise.
Anyway, I really think the 11.3 Tornado is actually pretty decent.
Take the countermeasure pods, the 9Ls, and the fuel tanks. Under the fueselage use 5 bombs, it will still kill a base and you’ll be a little lighter.
For fuel I actually run 65% and just manage my fuel well, you don’t have to go full afterburner the whole time and shouldn’t do that.
Strategy:
Fly up to around 3000m meter to get a situation of the battlefield, if you don’t get any locks and feel comfortable you can climb. If not, go low towards a base. Either way you have 1200 chaff so literally spam the countermeasure button as much as possible
After bombing turn around and head towards general direction of your airfield. If you still have your 9Ls try and surprise kill someone unsuspecting.
You should at this point be at like 30% fuel, and you can dogfight semi well with flaps so if you want you can try and intercept something like a MiG-21
Return to base and repeat
Well, the Tornados never managed to achieve their proper top speed ingame, ever. The Bundeswehr states that it’ll do Mach 1.3 asl, Ian Black (former RAF Fast Jet pilot) has said that he’d done in excess of 850kts asl in it, (though he is much more conservative in his Haynes Book, giving a speed of Mach 1.2 for all makes down low) and Bernd and Frank Vetter also say the same thing in their book on the Tonka.
I never quite understood how Gaijin has managed to screw up the one thing the Tornado is really well known for
Those speeds were likely achieved using the Combat thrust setting which currently is only modeled on the Mig-21BIS.
So:
Would be quite a notable buff for the Tonka, though would likely be a similar buff to a lot of other aircraft too. I dont see them being selective with the buff, though maybe they should.
No, it’s not. One of the worst FMs in the entire game relative to BR. Pretty much any gen3/gen4 can tear this thing a new one.
I remember when Tornado IDS MFG was 10.7 or 10.3, I don’t remember exactly, then Gaijin moved it up, that thing is unplayable.
Even a Mig-23BN can out dogfight it, and that thing is not that good.
@Morvran You are correct on this. It doesn’t have any internal CMs or guns. The BOZ pods, guns, and 9Ls all share the same pylon, so if you want a gun, and CMs you only get 2 9Ls and 2 9Js.
This is needed for all planes, and it makes zero sense why it isn’t in game. If we are sending planes fully into combat, wouldn’t combat thrust be unlocked?
Didnt think I was wrong.
OP must be confusing it with the Viggen C
and yeah. Combat thrust would be excellent to have on everything
This is your average loadout, its very underwhelming for air especially when you’re less agile than a Mirage IIIE which is 10.3, would hwlp if gaijin corrected their weight considering they are heavier than in real life but common sweden air L as per usual
Luft med pistol og modforanstaltninger is my air rb loadout
Yep, which is why its fine at 11.0 whilst the Tornado IDS is at 11.3. Relative to each other, its about right
You cant bomb anyways at 11.0 it was 11.3 on release and was worthless, poor flight performance (standard for the viggens) and sub par weapons.
You need all 4 inner pylons for one base, so no CM’s…
You have to play as a fighter thats worse than most fighters…
Gaijin could buff it and give it wingtip RB74 if they wanna change its BR. IRL RB74 worked on the the outer pylons but SAAB was worried that their increased weight would cause stress over time requiring more maintenance.
Sounds like a typical gaijin technicality
Eh its only good at 10.7 ground and worthless in air RB so probably best to keep as is. Now just add BK90
lol my bad then, i just forgot it had BOL pods in the same pylons u carry missiles and guns.
