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This is why the blue and yellow country turned it’s AD off after the first night of the thing we can’t talk about because of the reasons. The Russians never finished off all the major AD assets.
The West has been flying AWACS and ELINT planes from the Baltics to the Balkans and into the Black Sea to assist in detection so the remaining sites can fire on targets with minimal risk.
This is also why not even the Serbian/Kosovo situation was as dangerous for a pilot to operate in as the current situation in the place we can’t talk about.
I don’t think the flight models of Sukhois are incorrect.
They perform better than an F-15E, and as well if not better than an F-15C.
They perform slightly worse than an F-16 which they should.
The biggest thing is Sukhois have a high max fuel load which means they have a high minimum.
But that’s more a discussion for the Sukhoi topic.
I like how the SU 27 performs so I don’t really understand where all the complaints about the FM are coming from but then again people say the panstir isn’t OP so maybe people have unrealistic expectations, I cannot say the same for the MiG 29.
It’s hard for a vehicle to be OP when it can’t even frag the thing it was designed for.
Put a Pantsir against any CAS playing remotely correctly, and the CAS will have zero deaths.
You make it a 6 hour 1v1, and the Pantsir will have over 100 deaths to the CAS’s zero.
The only way to frag CAS at top BR is to bring a fighter.
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I’m pretty sure the issue is the instructor and the implementation of flaperons.
Rather than allowing the Flanker to hold speed it deploys flaps.
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sure the top 1% are able to be very deadly when using a decent CAS platform but the Pantsir is A) the best SPAA in the game and B) still very cable of dealing with CAS, they are the best at hitting planes and the munitions they are firing.
My point is not the CAS is not a problem or ahead of SPAAs but rather that people complaining about the panstir must have unrealistic expectations or are just bad. While I will say the SU 27 is not top sure but it is a capable jet and nothing to sneeze at so unless there is an actual issue with the FM i.e. sources stating performance does not reflect what we are seeing in game then I just do not understand what they want done.
Anyway sorry for the off topic
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Pantsir is not capable of dealing with today’s CAS.
Pantsir’s direct equivalent CAS platform is Harrier GR7 using AGM-65s. Meaning in an equal engagement both have an equal chance of fragging the other.
There’s a reason Gaijin admitted ALL SPAA in War Thunder right now is proven to be incapable of providing balance. Us CAS mains have been telling you guys that Pantsir is useless since it was announced, not introduced but announced.
So yeah, new SPAA has been needed since Jan 2023 that’s better than Pantsir, such as SPYDER with Python 5.
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I wouldn’t say that. Having played the Pantsir myself, it’s more than capable. Yes, it can be overwhelmed, but that’s true for any and all SPAA. I do agree that we need more and better SPAA though, that is for sure.
I definitely wouldn’t say that. If you want to consider a 1v1 between equally competent players, a Q-5L has zero chance against a Pantsir. The Pantsir is able to knock out the Q-5L’s weaponry without issue, and it absolutely can kill a high altitude Q-5L.
Again, I agree we need better SPAA. But the Pantsir definitely isn’t so bad as to be equivalent to a Q-5L.
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Its just that planes in general advanced way to fast for ground to catch up.
Pantsir is capable against aircraft with GBUs only not playing as a fighter or CAS, but more like a drone.
And high-aspect AGM shots from 9000+ meters up make it difficult for Pantsir to hit those weapons. You’re more than welcome to see for yourself.
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CAS has been OP since late 2022. It took 2 whole years for CAS players to learn how OP their weapon system actually is.
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On that note, I am not sure about J10 channel loss, cause J10A’s intake is similar to that of EFT, but J10B/C utilises a new intake for RCS reduction and a extended nose, which I have 0 idea what effect it will have.
China uses them for IRBMs so the range can do without air superiority, after all, 2500km range.
These are ranges where it is impossible to get a tracking lock using any weapon we currently have in the game (as far as I’m aware). Yes, the Pantsir’s missiles can be kinematically defeated, but that does not make them useless.
I have not had to experience this in my Pantsir yet because planes usually don’t get that high above the AO. It definitely happens, I’ve done it before in my F-16C and F-15E and had it happen to me in my FlaRakRad and ADATS a few times, but those planes have to come down at some point.
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I’m fairly sure I’ve been able to hit static AI tanks in a custom battle when I was over 15km away using the A4E.
That was also in ideal conditions. In real matches I’ve failed to get a lock from 4Km away.
Can we please stay on topic to the subject matter which is Rumor round-up, if you want to talk about if CAS is to strong or not in GRB please do so in a dedicated discussion related to such topic.
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I’ve played the Q-5L and I’ve played the Pantsir. I can’t effectively get within range of Rolands, ADATS, ITO’s, or even remain guided when I get into IR range.
It’s technically possible, but laughably improbable.
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