No one knows if the J-10B got AESA ever but its 100% PESA
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This is why I’m pretty sure Gaijin is going to cook-up an “idealized, as marketed” Su-33, instead of the historically accurate Su-33. I have a strong feeling it’s going to have Bars, and everyone is going to whine.
Yak-141 2.0 incoming.
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Bars?
Still find it annoying how the Russians got 3 jets back to back.
This update : Su-33
Last update : Su-34
Before that : Su-24
Before that : Su-27SM
Before that : Su-25SM3
Every single update this year Russia had a top end jet while other get told to scrape the barrel for a few updates
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Radar, N011, is the designation. First-gen PESA found in the earlier Su-30SM’s, and Su-30MKI’s. It was offered to the Chinese for their MKK’s, and fits the era for the Su-33 we’re likely getting which is the 2010 trialed Su-33. It was not equipped with Bars for the trials, but was offered to the MOD, and foreign customers with it as an option. Radar would’ve been at least 5-6 years old by then, so very likely compatible with minimal modification if at all (reshaped radome and canards can handle the additional weight, part of the reason why it wasn’t chosen by the Chinese for the MKK’s).
Eh. Su-27SM and beyond will be dominated by SPAMRAAM. I haven’t been able to truly BVR without being molested by them for almost a year.
Annoying? Sure. But we aren’t going to get R-77-1 any time soon apparently, so SPAMRAAM will persist while we continue to have no true counter. Su-33, in light of EFT and Rafale tbh is a bit of a letdown, I really feel like they should’ve given us the Su-30SM at that rate.
My point is the releases have been lack-luster, at least purely from an ARB standpoint. I finally have a viable loadout on the Su-34 for GRB, so I’ll report back soon on that.
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Why would we get some demo/trialed Su-33?
I mean if you go by that logic…
USA
this update: F-18
last update: F-15E
before that: F-111F, A-10C
before that: F-15C
before that: F-20
before that: F-15A
before that: F-111A
before that: F-16C
before that: F-14B
before that: F-4S
before that: F-16A
and with that we’re back at Fire and Ice in october 2022 when the US didn’t get a top jet
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For me it’s a hunch, mostly because the Su-34 gave us canards for Flankers, and the AL-31F-M1’s, both of which the Su-33 will have. I think gaijin is rushed for time or lazy on this one. Su-33 is more ready to go than the Su-30SM right now, or God forbid, fixing the FM’s on the Flankers, Fulcrums, and drag coefficient calculation problems on the R-77 in the game engine.
The Su-33 that was trialed was accepted for service. If it came as it trialed in 2010, it would have the AL-31F-M1’s, and the N001, probably base radar.
So the real question is do you think Gaijin would give the USSR/Ru a shiny Su-27 that has marginally better WVR, and no ARH’s? I don’t think they will. I think they’ll just default to adding the Bars radar. Everything else but the radar is coming regardless, that is what is in service as the Su-33. The only contention is does it get the radar it was marketed with?
In short because it was accepted for service after the 2010 trials.
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Nah, its been a while since your last Su-25 variant. You’ll probably get the Su-25TM with R-77s at 13.0 this update
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Its honestly baffling how quickly Russian Jets went from being the best and super unbalanced to good but nerfed pretty bad, like the Su-24 for example missin a TON of thrust
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Lmao. Su-33 is on the leak list. Are you trying to say Su-25TM with R-77’s and the Su-33? Still a joke lol.
Yeah, I still remember the days waiting for anything better to finally fight the Mig-23MLD
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Half the forum doesn’t care either. We’re in the age of SPAMRAAM, and the rest of the nations without a good one are about to have one. Russia will literally be the only nation in the game without SPAMRAAM’s, and we’re told R-77-1 and R-74 are too good (I agree on R-74, not R-73M), and they won’t fix the flight models either. Oh well I guess, I’ll just keep fighting like I’m in the God’s toughest soldier/hardest battles meme.
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and that would off been my next point, so why can the Russians, the US and Chinese get an aircraft every single update with no issue while other nations get told to pack it in for a few updates ?
What kind of A2G loadout the Thai A7E have? Naval A7 doesn’t have 6*AGM65B, and Thailand never used agm62.
Just this year, unlike Russia and US, and half of them are C&P
gee it’s not like these nations have an almost 3 to 1 ratio of aircraft produced
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Any chances to see the A-37 Dragonfly in this patch or in the near future in the US TT, Japan TT (via Thailand/South Vietnam) and/or Israeli TT (via Chile)?
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Given the number of missing variants or outright aircraft types missing from various nations at all BRs. This is a pretty poor argument.
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