Copy pasting will eventually happen for main nations… will y’all complain about 3 nations with the Eurofighter? or (if that point is ever reached) all Nato nations having the same 5th gen?
I don’t t have any desire about “my nation” (fist becuse i don’t give a f**k about that) becuse i apply my reasoning to every nation…this is just how the game used to be. So I’m not actually bitching for something that i want but for something that actually existed for every nation in this game.
well… i’m… i’m just saying: your own post.
There was once a time where if you wanted to play a Mig-21 you would have needed to start reaching for it in the soviet tech tree…or if you wanted to play with a leopard, then the german tt. Nobody force you to play a certain nation if you don’t like what it has to offer on a certain br. And this fact has never been a problem in terms of matchmaking…
I don’t mind facing the same vehicles if every nation actually own it. I do mind facing nations with veichles that they do not posses…
Boo hoo, War Thunder continues to expand to be a military vehicle simulator with a huge variety of vehicles like it has always aimed to be. Not to mention vehicles such as Mustangs, Shermans, T-34s that have been in multiple trees since launch. If you want all trees to have no shared anything maybe you should try World of Tanks, that’s got plenty of fictional vehicles to fill development gaps and really unique nations!
im not saying copy paste is bad but its been too excessive lately and they are tying to cover it up by hiding it.
*Brand new subtree for Italy. Looks inside. Copy Paste soviet tree with Gripen.
we’ve barely gotten any new unique vehicles this year and they keep on feeding us reused content over and over eventually ruining the flavour of things.
Look at Italy, they have 2 tornado’s , an F16 , a MIG-29, a harrier , a gripen and a leo. At this point lets make it even and give them an Abrams and a T90
Eventually as there wont really be any new tech available thats when we can see some copy paste, not now when there are many suggestions lying around they could add.
There is no way nations like Hungary or Belgium or any other nation can have their own tech tree so creating sub tech tree is the only way for Gaijin to add these vehicles. The uniqueness part of the tech trees is debatable… i consider China to have its own uniqueness since it has 2 lines, one soviet and one US provided equipment until both the ROCAF and the PLAAF managed to produce their own vehicles… but some people might just see that as copy paste, and i totally don’t care about their opinion, we are talking about subjective issues.
I always criticized Gaijin for adding non existing vehicles, paper designs and so on…
Im sorry but i just belong to a different group of players that were attracted by a game that no longer exist…becuse again, let me remind you, im talking about a reality that actually existed…
Subtechtrees are also supposed to give more options to certain nations and Italy had a massive one in terms of Air top tier, the grippy was the best option, also ties perfectly with the lack of good MBTS and boom… 2A7HU.
The issue is will you add subtechtrees with vehicles that are outdated and no longer useful just because there’s other indigenous stuff? Italy had a top tier Ground and Air issue NOW and the addition of Hungary was spot on.
i dont have a problem with subtrees, its copy paste i dont like. Its low effort and lazy and i hate how they try to rebrand it like its not the exact same as the others
I’m sorry to tell you but the simple existence of NATO means we will have copy paste.
I don’t think Italy had a top tier issue. Sure they didn’t have a 12.7 fighter but they had a tornado, a F16 and a harrier better than others (Germany)
You said it yourself, they didn’t have a 12.7 fighter. (IMO Germany has the same issue in air, thus they need a subtechtree that gives them something good for top air)
us having the same Profile Pic is tingling my brain lol
That is why i didn’t included China or Germany in my rant becuse their mash up tech trees actualy have some degree of sense.
My point is why Italy should have a Leopard and. T-72? Just becuse is not strong enough at top tier? Ok but nobody force anyone to play Italy at top tier…
South Africa is a different issue becuse there actually things that are not present anywere else.
The so called “minor nations” have gaps that should be filled by player skills being more challenging then the “major nations” given their limited options…
For example the F-16 for Japan was given becuse they wanted to give something to Japan at top tier untill their top tier jets will come…
My point is: if you dont have a top tier jet for Japan, just wait an play another nation at top tier or if you really want to play Japan just play at a different Br…
Italy has its own top tier players… so Gaijin has a target that they have to deliver to… thus the need for top tier MBT fixing their issues…
This is just double standards and says "You don’t play US or USSR? your bad skill issue… literally defeats the point of creating a “fun” experience for the players of other nations.
Once again, they have a target of players that play japan top tier and not having it will mean losing players… it would be negative for the players and for the company.
Thats just plain wrong, so just because they picked a different nation starting the game means they shouldn’t have fun and just *get gud?
No matter how trash some aspects of this game is, they try to make it a a balanced and fair time for each person playing cause afterall its just a VIDEO GAME.
Everyone knew that Italy was in a pretty bad state, this 2A7 and gripen will really solidify their toptier lineup and boost their wr and drive revenue towards Italy
Yes but it was a videogame even before…and even if i understand what you are saying, is not like the game didnt gave you options to have fun before: arcade, realistic, sim…different learing curves for every nations…
If you wanted to have a more challenging experience in terms of playing and grinding then you would opted out for certain nations otherwise for others…is up to you what kind of degree of fun you can have.
Rendering everything more similar is probably good for increasing the player base. But the quality of the game is going to be affected negatively.