Ive just tried how i fly hunters with the F-5c, it works just fine. Its bleeding more speed if you just let mouse aim do its thing as it has good instantaneous turn rates, which is real useful for getting guns on
su25 cant dogfight like a prop plane either and it slams the f-5 (all variants) in any sort of engagement that is not a flat tailchase. J7E isn’t a prop plane either and it can outdogfight all f-5s with ease in any scenario. J7D might not outrate them but it can disengage if it sees itself in a ratefight, then come back and go vertical or enter a slow speed one circle where f-5s can’t extend from thanks to having less twr than an a340-300.
no it cant if you get into a turn fight and turn once or twice the F5 will very easily catch you its a delta wing much like Mirage III or J35 it takes time to pick up speed the F5C can maintain much more energy when turning
not me literally edging merges with f-5s dodging in the last second and not even giving them an almost gun solution. The F-5s are anything but responsive. Even phantoms are better at getting snapshots than f-5s.
no it cant if you get into a turn fight and turn once or twice the F5 will very easily catch you its a delta wing much like Mirage III or J35 it takes time to pick up speed the F5C can maintain much more energy when turning
These can disengage anytime from the f-5, their thrust weight ratio is way higher than the f-5 in every speed they may find themselves in. F-5C takes A WHOLE MINUTE to go from 600IAS to 900IAS at sea level. Drakens, mig21s and ESPECIALLY J7D’S don’t even need to fly straight to fly away just open their turn a little more.
Your arguments of “i cant even beat a frogfoot” relies on playing an F-5 like a spitfire, which is moronic to do.
You exceed in this plane, its your best vehicle that youve actually put some time into and by a long shot.
you arent fooling anyone. The F-5C is the most used 10.7 aircraft for very ovbious reasons, a player that does meh most of the time shreds in it.
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yeah but it dumps speed TWR will not save even if you have double it just changes how quick you accelerate
the F5C has way better energy retention so coming out of a turn it will have a head start in speed allowing it to catch up
I don’t play the f-5c like a spitfire. I AM the frogfoot that outfought DEDICATED F-5 DUELISTS. And I get dogged on f-5c precisely cause it’s SO PAINFULLY SLOW even on it’s peak maneuvering energy status. Why does it matter that it can hold speed well at mach 0.9 if there’s a mig21 going mach 1.3? Does it matter either if a J8B is sending an Aspide to your location? Does it matter if the f104 already ran away with all much of a hit you got cause the guns deal no damage? What about the J35XS you just critically damaged and is miraculously catching up after doing a 180?
you arent fooling anyone. The F-5C is the most used 10.7 aircraft for very ovbious reasons, a player that does meh most of the time shreds in it.
I use it mostly because it’s a good grinder and pretty much about it. If I want to have high kill games I pick something like a MiG21Bis with four r13m’s or an F-4E with only two sparrows.
in other words. you met the average level 7 wallet warrior.
because the mig isnt holding m1.3. best i could get out of the J7 in a test drive was a little slower than i could out of te F-5c, fishbeds are a bit more erratic to control vs the f-5.
every gun when you use them do no damage. Thats proven from the Buff M39 thread where your evidence involved a blind mans aim.
https://youtu.be/LecntDviS-U?si=2rskXzeURhMeCmCQ
You arent fooling anyone. Your favourite grinder plane is already OP, stop demanding it becomes completely untouchable more than it already is from its overperforming STR and lacking IR signature
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READ AGAIN, DEDICATED F-5 DUELISTS.
because the mig isnt holding m1.3
Bro doesn’t know jets can also boom and zoom at mid high altitude. MiG21 bis can sustain 1.1 mach in straight level flight at sea level, f-5’s barely go 1.01.
every gun when you use them do no damage. Thats proven from the Buff M39 thread where your evidence involved a blind mans aim.
Blind man’s aim why? The shots connected at least with a single or two bullets. A single or two bullets is what I need on GSh23L to hit the same kinds of shots even when the opponent is coming sideways. I get them every so often on the yak130.
You arent fooling anyone. Your favourite grinder plane is already OP, stop demanding it becomes completely untouchable more than it already is from its overperforming STR and lacking IR signature
Scimitar’s curse turn fights zeroes at 5.0 and wants them to go higher.
exceeded that with 50% fuel, thats more than fast enough. and you dont really lose that speed in a controlled turn
because you have bad aim.
appears that you would claim that you cant even kill a helldiver from this thread.
pretending that your grinder vehicle is bad to let it farm even easier is bad faith.
I remember your threads about BK27 and alpha jet being the worst thing ever too, youre nothing but bad faith complaints Mantis. go play a different game if fair PvP is so horrid to you even in OP planes.
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Controlled turns are what get the rest of things to outturn f-5s, as I said, you cannot hold more than these values in the f5 thrust/speed/maneuverability. You can hold two of them in mig21s or phantoms, or three of them on su25s and j7e’s.
because you have bad aim.
Bad aim but the shots connect and give me hits on f-5 while I nuke targets on gsh23l.
appears that you would claim that you cant even kill a helldiver from this thread.
What are you braying about?
I remember your threads about BK27 and alpha jet being the worst thing ever too, youre nothing but bad faith complaints Mantis. go play a different game if fair PvP is so horrid to you even in OP planes.
Since when is bad faith to post empirical facts that anyone who doesn’t dwell terminally on the forum agrees with? People tend to think bk27 is great cause they spam it on the j39, even despite I specified (and showed descriptive proof and gameplay proof that SWED 27 has HEF rounds while GERMANY and UK bk27 is only comprised of practice and armor piercing inert rounds.
pretending that your grinder vehicle is bad to let it farm even easier is bad faith.
Since when asking for the j7d to go up or move f5c down without CMs & missiles bad faith? Looks like YOU are the one having bad faith for you refuse to learn how to actually play the game and remain stagnant on the same caveman logic arguments as per usual. You turn fight zeroes and don’t want to admit it.
J7D should go to 11.0 but F5C should remain in 10.7. It should not go to 10.3 because of its high speed flight performance, which makes it efficiently remain energy. Maybe F5C needs AIM9J to make it stay in 10.7, but move it into lower BR is not a good idea.
one day maybe but gaijin refuses to decompress the match maker at that br as it would face 12.0 F4s that just dog walk it and 11.7s like mig 23MLD are bad enough to fight instead even just the regular F4E or JA37 11.3 is a tuff fight if the enemy has a brain
they keep adding stuff like F18A and MIG-21 BISON at 12.3 which are very good at bullying F4s
F5C was a great energy fighter last I played it.
Reading through a bit of the thread and seeing OP trying to insinuate that the F-5C is that bad it needs moved down in BR, that he beats “dedicated F-5C duelists” with the SU-25 [citation needed]. Meanwhile the OPs most played aircraft and best performance also being in the F-5C this seems suspicious.
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Careful. OP may pull up stats you have on a vehicle you havent played since you first played WT to compare his few hundred games in it to try and prove a point
your STUPIDLY wrong about the f5… and corrrect about the J7D
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you can thank compression demons like F4S and MLD for the J7D fighting 9.7s
wait till u find out how busted the mig19 is
F6C is a absurd plane at 9.7
i very much agree, and its even lower if u use arcade air with superdownteir exploit
and still broken in realistic
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