True, a toggle between 1 month, 6 months and a year would be relevant. But i still think it should then still only compare to stats in that players other vehicles of similar type and not the whole player bases stats.
which is why i said:
Fair, but all the more terrible suggestion.
Of course they should.
Stats from the game show how You play it, if I were discussing things about “x” vehicle, I would like to talk to person who:
- Has any experience in it/against it.
- Knows the game (at least not negative K/D).
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Game would need more classes then. Comparing stats on m109, m36, wiesel tow and bmpt would seem weird because all of them are actually different classes labeled as td.
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I’ve seen lawyers mount trials for way less than this btw lol (the Statshark team is openly playing in the gray areas of the TOS to monetize the processing of public information, they’d get a C&D or a lawsuit if Gaijin really cared).
Before the current live game viewer, gaijin clearly did not care; however now is money involved sincethe statshark team started to “monetize” gaijins data so I wouldnt be so sure.
While I appreciate the added info here from the app lead dev, I do think a proper standing FAQ or other similar statement is still the way to address this, not someone’s clipped Discord DM, now that realworld money is involved.
It is also probably worth mentioning that, in the absence of an updated FAQ or other documentation, any assurances here are all “as of this date.” As of October 8, the Live Viewer app was “permanently” gone. By January 2, " the development of the Shark Client was kind of unexpected." First mention of it coming back at all was on the day when it launched. By April, maybe it’ll validate your parking, or suggest good local restaurants, or send all your banking data to Grok. Who really knows? :)
There’s a relevant difference on setting up a public database of public profiles on a videogame and producing a 3rd party tool for the videogame which connects to a private database and its behind a paywall to get the numbers rolling.
That’s the point, they’re monetizing alleged public information behind the automation argument, who knows what they can also get by downloading the app and making it work on your game.
Oh on that I 100% agree.
uh…yea? Mind elaborate a bit, since this reads as if you agree with me.
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In short, I do. No worries. Its just that if Statshark would’ve just stick to the primary goal of being a better database than Gaijin’s own database, there would only be a problem with some of the devs behind it.
Now, with the further monetization, an argument can be made about the 3.2.5 on their TOS.
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Im not going to reply to anyone specific with this, as that would be too much. Just general points. Likely dupes anyways.
Ive used statshark for a little over a year.
Personally, im only interested in a few features. Primarily, the session tracker.
Game viewer:
I assume many people here havent, and wont ever use it. Thats perfectly fine, and if its something you dont support, then its good.
As it is now, it really only consolidates the info available in game + adds a SR1 rank to the player.
Most of this information, for me, is useless. I dont really care whos on the other team. Though i do find it interesting if anyone is “good” on the other team occasionally. Usually “good” players are names im already familiar with. Say such as J or Chase. But again, all this info really is just 2 clicks away on each profile.
My interest lies in what vehicle players are in, not the player itself (usually)
As for possible toxic:
People will compare whos good. “haha .5kd lol!”
OR you get their IGN, open the game “haha .5kd lol!”
The website itself (Ranks specifically) will always generate some toxic/elitism though.
There are some good things the site does, that i think should be available somewhere
Sessions - I think allowing players to easily track sessions is good. Depending on how you read them it can help you improve, determine if a vehicle is bad etc. This again, is just consolidation of data you could do manually.
Global vehicle stats - I dont come here much. But its interesting to see how the global playerbase is doing in x vehicle. With the month data it can be interesting/useful to see how BR changes affect vehicles. I imagine some of you will find this more useful than i do.
Missile calculator/FM calc/turn charts - I dont use this much either. I dont think it needs much explanation.
Theres also the “Sensor viewer” but ive literally never used it.
Im not arguing for, or against anything here really.
I played enough video games to know people always label others based on stats, and being toxic to those who have poor stats. I do not know how statshark live game viewer works since I never used it, but I do know some people randomly check teammates KD, and if they are uptiered and the downtiered players are average or under average, they will use the “low kd scapegoat tank”, rush to enemy or even j out and quit as soon as they died once. This is why some people have quite good kd, like 2+ averagely, but has a few tanks with 0.1kd.
When it was first added, all the matches were U.S. v.s U.S. similar to how ARB currently is MiG-25 v.s MiG-25.
I have up to 6.3 ground, and so far it’s been extremely good, especially compared to America and Germany. I also have both T 80 U and M1A1 Aim, and with T 80 U as my second most played vehicle, and lots of encounters with various toptier vehicles, I can very confidently say Russia is the strongest.
gives you a smooqich
. . . that’s not how info scraping works
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can u (or anyone else) explain who the devs are/why they’re questionable?
Devs are Hadi, Prae, and Danredda.
Hadi seems to be the main dev, SR1, Vehicle stats, site visuals etc.
Prae handles the FM, and calc stuff
Danredda does the sensor stuff
(obv they overlap in the work, but those seem to be primary work areas)
Formerly Pluspy was a dev. Also known as the “nord hacker” who recently did some interesting things.
Pluspy is not a dev of statshark any longer.
never heard of any of them, are they involved in any dodgy stuff? Tbh a ‘hacker’ being involved in third party tools is not surprising or worrying at all, that’s the basically skill set you would need to develop this kind of data mining tool lol
According to the developer of the app it is how they do it (Answer #2):
I think it does not, your real name is still displayed on replays so they can still track your stats and data, this is more of an in-game privacy and stream snipe prevention thing.
Read and check the embedded URL of this reply.
You can confidently say it, but you would be confidently wrong.
MBT wise they argaubly aren’t even top 4, as the US, Japan, France and Sweden absolutely beat Russia with their MBTs.