I don’t have strong views either way about whether it’s OK for early cold war aircraft to shoot the stealth dorito down or not.
My angle on this is that it’s a missed opportunity for the F-117 to use it’s stealth ability, seeing as nobody has good radar guided weaponry at the tier
I’d like to see it buffed as much as possible and as such fit into a BR where RCS is relevant.
GRB it’s going to be 10.0 where it’s stealth will play more of an role. (If it doesn’t change)
Unfortunately not. It’s common sense/knowledge you should wash your hands after using the toilet, yet many don’t do it.
It can still be brought up in line-ups in GRB. It was never intended to be used in an air-to-air role. “Fighter” was a misnomer given to the project because at the time, bomber projects were not popular investments.
Well, there is a reason why the weapon racks drop down into the slipsteam, it was to allow line of sight for guided weapons such as Sidewinder.
It wouldn’t be correct to say the F-117 was never intended to shoot air targets, because in the conceptual stage it was theorized it could be employed against AWACS, sneaking close to fire FOX-2 at them.
This never materialized because a radar was needed to locate said AWACS, and this was difficult to incorporate in a stealthy manner
It just happened that this route wasn’t pursued, and it was instead developed into a bomber for attack missions.
Just because the designers preserved that capability does not mean it was ever intended to be a fighter.
There is a reason why it was only operated at night and didn’t have a radar. You should read Skunk Works.
Most definitely an accident I agree.
It is though… because one option is none and the other is a mix, i’m not asking about making all of it theoretical.
If you have even one theoretical then you have them, if you don’t you don’t.
It’s literally impossible to make it a gray area in this case as the gray area automatically becomes “having theoretical matchups”.
So then it is as i said, its not about a blanket issue, its about specific cases you want fixed or changed.
put it higher than that and no one will be able to play it in air modes. It’s a game, it’s supposed to be about fun, not about accurate matchups.
That is a sad outlook to have on the game.
you’re thinking to big, CAS and bombers in air modes work as it is currently, it might not be as diverse as it could be, but that doesn’t mean that those two aren’t accommodated for, why do you think ground AI and bases exist?
You have to think smaller in that case, and if you accommodate one type of bomber it might not accommodate another. all bombers/CAS don’t work the same.
See above, my statement puts shades of gray into one of the options. if you have gray, then the gray can be moved, then it isn’t a blanket issue, its an issue on specific matchups that aren’t to your specific liking. If the gray area is already there, then that is the blanket function you just want specific thing about it to change, not to change the entire blanket.
it quite literally semantically does.
That makes perfect sense, but is not what you first said, it might have been what you ment, but not what you said. This is why semantics are important.
8.7 aircraft
Next you’re gonna compare B-29 and BF109 E3.
Your complaint was the MIG-17 and F-117 being at the same BR. Clearly the MIG will be no match for the 117.
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Every time I do it make me laugh.
Truly a meme from the golden age
Look at this graph.
I don’t find meeting F-117s in a MiG-15 fun.
Is not wanting attack helicopters in an F1 racing game a sad lookout on the game?
This “accommodation” you’re talking about is just sad. CAS and bombers trying to do their thing is like a stray dog eating leftovers on the street.
Merciful fighter players allow them to have targets to drop bombs at, that in practice don’t change the outcome of the battle at all. All while there is an extremely high chance of getting killed by a fighter in the process, practically a suicide mission every time, especially at higher BRs.
It may be. I have a strict/scientific mind (as opposed to a humanist, I don’t know if that’s a thing in English) and often have communication issues. People often say to me that I need to be more specific, because they don’t know what’s in my mind.
And you are free to feel that way. but F-117 players won’t think its fun to play at higher BR, so…
not even close to comparable.
which i acknowledged in my post. but you for some reason left it out of the quote.
Been there, thought myself to be better at formulating my own thoughts into something others can understand. It has saved me A LOT of trouble in life.
What do you find fun? Maybe you should give us all the rules that you think should be imposed so we can discern what your vision of the game is…
If Gaijin:
-was willing to change how Air RB works in a fundamental way, placing more emphasis on the ground attack mission as opposed to only encouraging team deathmatch
-modeled the stealth more correctly so it’s stealthy in every direction and not just a few degrees in the front
-modeled the IR reduction more correctly so you’re not blasted to smithereens by Fox-2 from 5km out
-changed spotting mechanics so you wouldn’t have a giant red text above you 25 km out
Then I’d indeed find having the F-117 in a higher BR more fun, engaging, and rewarding
Sadly this is not the case right now.
Also: the ground attack and base bombing aspect of WT hasn’t changed since the game came out, it’s still stuck in WW2 with pure tonnage of bombs dropped being the only quality you measure attackers by. What about accuracy? The F-117 could have a valuable niche being able to bust bunkers with pinpoint accurate LGBs but sadly this is not valued at all in the current terms of the game
There is also no opposition except for enemy player aircraft, no enemy SPAA threat at all to circumvent/penetrate. A WW2 bomber could just as easily destroy strategic objectives as the F-117, and this is… flawed
