In air sim EC, we have “Survey planes” and “Attack planes” and “Bomber formations.”
At prop tiers, these vehicle roles are filled by more-or-less reasonable planes.
At korean jet tier, I start scratching my head at what I run into and find and very weird/absurd physics from these planes.
These planes should be those which were genuinely used for those roles (Ground attack, tactical/strategic bombing and reconnaisance).
Implementing the F-117 nighthawk could replace some of the attacker/bomber formations in appropriate sim EC brackets, improving immersion and fun.
Implementing reconnaisance-only planes could likewise be used to replace the current weird choices. The F117 nighthawk could also be perfect for this!
Now, you might ask: “Why add them to players if we could just add it for a.i to use and let it be?”
Well, because it’s cool to fly these planes. Since they’re very weird/niche things that don’t fit into the standard ARB meta, nor even sim metas (until we get the ability to do EWACS and data links between aircraft and other stuff at least. Doubtful), they’re implemented as squadron vehicles:
They’re clearly not for grinding (not premium)
They’re available all around the year (so thankfully not BP/event vehicle)
They’re not part of the tech tree so you don’t need to deal with their ineffective usage as they’re gimmicks for collectors who want to fly cool and weird stuff.
Recon aircraft should not come to the game. As is the 117 is in an weird spot but it still can serve a purpose for CAS in GRB not a big one but if Gaijin looking to bring in more stealth aircraft it does well for an entry.
Recon planes would only work on the basis like the recon aircraft you see in GRB for light tanks. Transport has no place in the game. other than a AI target.
I think all planes used for “props” in game modes should also be flyable by players.
I also think it’d be super cool if air sim EC was improved with objectives that drive immersion and provide unique challenges that could provide a space for even transport aircraft.
There’s a game I used to play on PS2 - “United Peace Force: Dropship.” It had missions where you had to land transport aircraft near AAA coverage and enemy fighter presence to deliver artillery to open up a channel for the fleet to pass safely. Imagine if we had objectives of that kind in sim EC!
Maybe these things would be utterly useless in air RB and GRB and AAB and the like but, why must they? If they’re a squadron vehicle with enormous squadron research cost, it means most people who want it will pay gaijin cash to skip the 3 month+ long grind.
However, they wouldn’t hurt anyone, pun intended, if Gaijin didn’t try to balance them and just put them in appropriate time frames/BRs instead. They could be used in sim instead of AI recon planes.
They would be generally useless, but at least they obviously wouldn’t be OP and wouldn’t break immersion if put at a correct BR. That’s what should happen to F-117. Better to have it useless, than have it break immersion or not have it at all.
Let’s not mention it’s warhead, which carries 145x BLU-97/B bomblets that each have shaped charge with 200mm pen, and fragmentation/incendiary effects to boot
Huehuehuehue
Edit: I mean it sounds scary and potentially gamebreaking, but depending on how wide the impact area is, it wouldn’t be too different from a 2000lb bomb.
I know someone else has taken you on this but still.
The only context that date of service matters is in relation to historical mm.
Any argument that uses “immersion”, “y never fought x”, and/or “x is z years newer/older than y” is an argument for historical mm.
War thunder is not the game for that. There are games that actually try to do want you are looking for. I see that you like GHPC and tried Squad. I hope GHPC gets some sort of multiplayer spin off. I know that Squad is more infrantry focused but that does give it better immersion. How often did tanks fight in ww2 without any infrantry?
Sooooo Cooooooooool!
The F-117 is an aviation icon, however!
Let’s be realistic, this is just another bait to attract players. The game is full of problems to be solved and rough edges to be smoothed out and the only thing GJ does is release new vehicles.
But let’s be realistic, War Thunder IS, and always has been, an arcadey shooter, it has always been aimed primarily at the casual playerbase who are interested in Military vehicles. The mechanics of actually playing the game are completely arcadey in all modes apart from sim. War Thunder has never been a realistic Simulator.
I’ve been Registered since - 28/06/2014 - 3:14am, almost 10 years and 5 months, and I personally have never seen an exciting change in this game, at least for me and for people like me who like games that are a little longer and that demand a bit of brainpower. But contrary to my expectations, the game declined.
I can’t be unfair either, there were many very nice changes in the game’s effects and interface, that’s a fact, the addition of more modules to the vehicles is something really cool, I liked it, it makes me angry sometimes, but it’s cool, it’s a bit out of tune with the game, which didn’t continue its essence, but it’s good.
The fact that the F-117, besides being COOL, is just a Christmas tree ornament, a sitting duck inside the game. That we will research, use a few times and then throw into oblivion.
I understand that it will generate what the company wants, but I believe that for most players, if GJ spent its resources on other aspects of the game, it would be better for everyone, for us players and for them.
And the obvious first step to gain feedback for usage of stealth, a mechanic that will be due relatively soon. Don’t forget that most vehicles only get used a few times and then forgotten, that won’t be new to the F-117. At the very least, this vehicle NEEDED to come first before any other stealth aircraft.
Telling 3D modelers to start working on game redesigns is an interesting ask. How do you suppose they are going to do that?
So I guess this plane will be useless in game…LOL so they have time to make usless plane but no time to make better Batle pass LOL…this game is such a lazy clumsy mess, just embarrassing at this point
That is true but based on the aircrafts flight performance it seems like it will sit well at 8.7 it will without a doubt be the lowest preforming 8.7 but i don’t see it getting any better. Unless maybe you put it against props but that would be absurd placement.
