I think a lot of people forget how well warthunder is optimized
I was able to run in a playable state on a mid range 2010 laptop with the cpu integrated graphics that was also water dameged (around 2021-2022 at the latest, i have upgraded around that time)
Not many games could boast something like that
The F-117 is not stealthy from 1 direction. It was perfectly stealthy from all directions with the “hopeless diamond” shape made into the Have Blue prototype, but as it was found to be far too unstable, they reduced it’s effectiveness for some aerodynamic control.
But from most directions the F-117 has a very reduced radar crossection, making it “invisible” to early radar systems of the time period.
I wouldn’t say it’s very optimized, but rather it’s not unoptimized. Maybe I just don’t play many unoptimized games in general. What I would consider a very optimized game is WOT, it’s funny to see it in benchmarks having double or triple the FPS of all the other games.
War Thunder has very nice lighting and vehicle models, but maps are old and show their age.
Anti-aliasing is either very bad if you play in native 1080p or 1440p with TAA, or absolutely stunning if you play in 4K with DLSS for Nvidia or TAA + 80-100% sharpening for AMD.
Especially the antialiasing coming from DLSS is magic in 4K. AI is clearly superior to any anti-aliasing method. AI simply knows how the image should look like as a whole, instead of extrapolating information from surrounding pixels.
In my opinion War Thunder needs an overhaul like WOT 1.0, but just for the maps + fixed TAA.
They did use to meaningfully contribute, then the vocal minority of fighter players complained that if they ignored bombers they would win the match, so gaijin changed it and it was the final nail in the proverbial coffin for us bomber mains since 2013.
That has a low rcs for it’s size. If it’s the size of 2xB-29’s but has the radar cross section of a b-29 + 1/2 because it is a flying wing, it still makes the statement it has low rcs correct. What matters is context to what metric, itself or others. If none is given then it is automatically designated as referencing it’s presumed RCS for it’s size/surface area.
For naval battles it should be (BR 8.0)
Here’s an argument.
In air sim EC, we have “Survey planes” and “Attack planes” and “Bomber formations.”
At prop tiers, these vehicle roles are filled by more-or-less reasonable planes.
At korean jet tier, I start scratching my head at what I run into and find and very weird/absurd physics from these planes.
These planes should be those which were genuinely used for those roles (Ground attack, tactical/strategic bombing and reconnaisance).
Implementing the F-117 nighthawk could replace some of the attacker/bomber formations in appropriate sim EC brackets, improving immersion and fun.
Implementing reconnaisance-only planes could likewise be used to replace the current weird choices. The F117 nighthawk could also be perfect for this!
Now, you might ask: “Why add them to players if we could just add it for a.i to use and let it be?”
Well, because it’s cool to fly these planes. Since they’re very weird/niche things that don’t fit into the standard ARB meta, nor even sim metas (until we get the ability to do EWACS and data links between aircraft and other stuff at least. Doubtful), they’re implemented as squadron vehicles:
They’re clearly not for grinding (not premium)
They’re available all around the year (so thankfully not BP/event vehicle)
They’re not part of the tech tree so you don’t need to deal with their ineffective usage as they’re gimmicks for collectors who want to fly cool and weird stuff.
Recon aircraft should not come to the game. As is the 117 is in an weird spot but it still can serve a purpose for CAS in GRB not a big one but if Gaijin looking to bring in more stealth aircraft it does well for an entry.
Recon planes would only work on the basis like the recon aircraft you see in GRB for light tanks. Transport has no place in the game. other than a AI target.
I think all planes used for “props” in game modes should also be flyable by players.
I also think it’d be super cool if air sim EC was improved with objectives that drive immersion and provide unique challenges that could provide a space for even transport aircraft.
There’s a game I used to play on PS2 - “United Peace Force: Dropship.” It had missions where you had to land transport aircraft near AAA coverage and enemy fighter presence to deliver artillery to open up a channel for the fleet to pass safely. Imagine if we had objectives of that kind in sim EC!
Maybe these things would be utterly useless in air RB and GRB and AAB and the like but, why must they? If they’re a squadron vehicle with enormous squadron research cost, it means most people who want it will pay gaijin cash to skip the 3 month+ long grind.
I agree.
However, they wouldn’t hurt anyone, pun intended, if Gaijin didn’t try to balance them and just put them in appropriate time frames/BRs instead. They could be used in sim instead of AI recon planes.
They would be generally useless, but at least they obviously wouldn’t be OP and wouldn’t break immersion if put at a correct BR. That’s what should happen to F-117. Better to have it useless, than have it break immersion or not have it at all.
Apples and Oranges here.
The F-117 is able to produce exp in the same manner as the buccaneer S.1 oh look they both the same br interesting?
Oh yeah wouldn’t want to break your immersion of Me 163s fighting F-86s
It seems the F-117 could use the AGM-154 JSOW, which is a unpowered glide bomb
Seeing as more and more vehicles are getting glide bombs, it seems fitting to also add this one
Would be nice for JSOWs to be added but regretfully we are without.
Let’s not mention it’s warhead, which carries 145x BLU-97/B bomblets that each have shaped charge with 200mm pen, and fragmentation/incendiary effects to boot
Huehuehuehue
Edit: I mean it sounds scary and potentially gamebreaking, but depending on how wide the impact area is, it wouldn’t be too different from a 2000lb bomb.
I know someone else has taken you on this but still.
The only context that date of service matters is in relation to historical mm.
Any argument that uses “immersion”, “y never fought x”, and/or “x is z years newer/older than y” is an argument for historical mm.
War thunder is not the game for that. There are games that actually try to do want you are looking for. I see that you like GHPC and tried Squad. I hope GHPC gets some sort of multiplayer spin off. I know that Squad is more infrantry focused but that does give it better immersion. How often did tanks fight in ww2 without any infrantry?
In the wild . . . just chillin’ . .
Sooooo Cooooooooool!
The F-117 is an aviation icon, however!
Let’s be realistic, this is just another bait to attract players. The game is full of problems to be solved and rough edges to be smoothed out and the only thing GJ does is release new vehicles.
But let’s be realistic, War Thunder IS, and always has been, an arcadey shooter, it has always been aimed primarily at the casual playerbase who are interested in Military vehicles. The mechanics of actually playing the game are completely arcadey in all modes apart from sim. War Thunder has never been a realistic Simulator.
I’ve been Registered since - 28/06/2014 - 3:14am, almost 10 years and 5 months, and I personally have never seen an exciting change in this game, at least for me and for people like me who like games that are a little longer and that demand a bit of brainpower. But contrary to my expectations, the game declined.
I can’t be unfair either, there were many very nice changes in the game’s effects and interface, that’s a fact, the addition of more modules to the vehicles is something really cool, I liked it, it makes me angry sometimes, but it’s cool, it’s a bit out of tune with the game, which didn’t continue its essence, but it’s good.
Okay, but what does this rant have to do with the F-117?
The fact that the F-117, besides being COOL, is just a Christmas tree ornament, a sitting duck inside the game. That we will research, use a few times and then throw into oblivion.
I understand that it will generate what the company wants, but I believe that for most players, if GJ spent its resources on other aspects of the game, it would be better for everyone, for us players and for them.
lol… I think I have seen some others like that, might have been one where a Pilot was starting to climb in the cockpit
