Squadron vehicles and progression: how?

Yeah well, then it is as you say, 20k a day.

I just dont actively track the research on squadron vehicles, once the message that i researched one popsnup, i select the next one.

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yeah unfortunately i know, as I’ve done all mine and my contribution is just going into the neather.

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press F for homie

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I’ve just calculated how long it would take to get all the squad vehicles.
You need 9,575,000 points for all vehicles! For this you need about 479 x 20,000 points.
You get 20,000 points every three days with full deployment. That’s 1436 days rounded up …
Can anyone confirm this? I tend to miscalculate or overlook something.

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no idea i know it took a long ass time, thats for sure

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With the maximum of 20k points every 3 days, you need about 3 weeks for a low BR vehicle like the Firecrest or 11 weeks for a high BR vehicle like the Leopard. It took me about 4.5 years to get all 21 vehicles because we started as a small 1000 pts squad and needed 2 years to grow to a 20k pts squad. Now it is possible to get all the vehicles within 3 years.

You are wrong. If you have at least the average activity of your squad, you get the full points that result from the squad’s total activity. My squad with 90+ active players normally earns the full 20k vehicle points. Our country is on summer vacation right now, so some players are vacationing abroad and don´t play, so we don’t get the full activity points, but only 17k-19k (which ist still way more than your squads 5 active members can get). When our squad still had few active members, we got significantly fewer points with full activity, as is the case with your squad now.

My squad was only founded to grind vehicle points. Inactive players are sorted out every few weeks. Although it’s a German-speaking squad, players who speak other languages ​​are welcome, as long as they just play actively. I’ll invite you if you want.

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I am not wrong. Just read the text in the screenshot and compare what he said. The text in the screenshot does not state anything what he said.

But thx for you answering. I still dont get how the numbers work and why gaijin should want players to play in anonymous squadrons rather than playing with their friends.

You mean, you are german?

9720 points mean, there is 27 people in your squadron (27 players x 360 points)
but even if there is 128 people then 128 x 360 = only 20000 points ;)
If you are looking for more active squadron you have to look at the squadron activity points around 200k or more.

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you don’t get the number and how it works (you’ve admitted this), yet when people advise you of the issue, which is that your squadron is not active enough, you dismiss??

please understand that we are here to help, and we have given you the correct information

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Yeah squad vehicle research is ass

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I what?

You said this: “As you can see your squadrons contribution is only 11%” But how is this number of 11% caculated?

Weavis (first answer in this thread) said: “It clearly explains it at the bottom of your picture.” But the screenshot DOES NOT explain it. It only says that my contribution to the totals changes how many points I earn.

But thanks to ItzzWar and superbuster I do now understand it. It means that I have to leave my friends squadron and join an anonymous one just to accelerate the process of unlocking the squadron vehicles.

And even then it will take months to unlock a single high br vehicle like Leopard 2 PL. Is there a vehicle that is worth it?

If the squadron maximum activity reward is 9720 points, then 11% is 1069 points.
But there is 1080, so the exact squadron activity must be 11,11% (if 9720 = 100%, then 1080 = 11,11 %)

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Same outcome as we have been advising you.

20,000 every 3 days, if the average squadron vehicle is 400,000 then it will take 60 days per vehicle at that level

As long as your squadron meets 20,000 points and you meet or exceed this, then that’s all what is required, if you active and your squadron is not, you need to find an active Squadron, to maximise your Points, its that simple.

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You mean, 20k every 3 days, so it would at least be 60 days for a 400k vehicle, not 20.

So if I wanted to accelerate the progression towards the Leopard 2 PL (450k still missing), I had to join a squadron with high activity and then play for at least 75 days to get the points. Much better than playing for more than 4 years…but since there is no interaction needed in the squadron, what’s the point of gaijin of punishing small squadrons with people, who actually are friends or playing together?

You can get them all with a small contribution called GE … ;-)

I too have completed them all and this is the third time I have been “in between” Squadron vehicles, waiting for the next new one to drop. I was thinking that we would have gotten another with this last Update, but … . nothing, not even a word. While a little perplexing, not that surprising really as current events seem to be setting the tone and new standard of just less stuff being offered all around I guess.
I put forth a Suggestion that we be allowed to use the “excess” Squadron RP to use for getting modifications on the Squadron vehicles only. I have already lost enough RP to have finished a new vehicle now and the tally will just keep going I guess. Being able to research some modifications every 3 days would be helpful and also might lead me to play more of them, diversify and work other nations more. We can hope . . .
I’m sure I did something wrong, as it was closed pretty fast, but here is a link so you can at least look at it. Someone that knows more about making proper Suggestions and how to actually work this new Forum better might have better luck . . I hope someone would try anyway . . .

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fixed thank you

Most of us are but we´ve also had players from other European countries or even China. We’re not in a squad to discuss politics, we just want to play and research some squad vehicles with the greatest possible effectiveness.

You can bring your friends with you into an existing squad like mine or any other that is dedicated to squad vehicles and do whatever you did before. You can join our discord if you want, but you can also use your own discord or TS. You don´t have to communicate or team with other members of the squadron but of course you can ask for help if needed. I´m fine as long as you help us to get our 20k points. Some squadrons have their own rules like “you have to be online 5 times a week between 19:00 and 22:00” or “sim battles only”. We don´t. Just be active or get kicked when you have 0 points some weeks in a row. That´s all. Oh, and don´t be a nazi!
On the other hand you can grow your own squad to a higher number of (anonymous) active players to get 20k rp reward. That will take some months but it is still your or rather your friend´s squad.

Squadron research points are gained from being active while being in a squadron. For every 200 research points earned, an “activity point” will be added to the squadron’s collective pool. Every 3 days, these activity points will be converted into an amount of research points towards the selected squadron vehicle, depending on the player’s relative activity and the total number of points in the pool. Each player can contribute up to 360 points per 3-day period, and the activity pool is limited to 20,000 points.
https://wiki.warthunder.com/Squadron_vehicles

To get 20k “squad RP” the squad needs to get 200*20000=4 million normal RP in total within 3 days. So, for example, if you earn an average of 1500RP per battle, then you need to fight 2667 battles within 3 days. You can’t do that with 5 players, but you can do it with 100 players, who then have to complete an average of 27 battles each in 3 days, or 9 per day. So you can see the number of active players DOES matter.

Within most large squads there are several groups of friends or solo players who don´t know and don´t interact with other groups or solo players of the same squad. You can still have your own private bubble with your 3 or 10 friends within a large quadron.

It´s a bonus, not a must have. And it can also take weeks or even months to unlock a high BR vehicle like the normal Leopard 2A4.

Most of them aren´t. SKR-7 is great, Firecrest is useful, some are crap and others are similar to the vehicles in the normal research tree. I just wanted to have them in my collection.

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Shimakaze and the Me 262 are easily my favourites, with speed and torpedo spam, and a 262 with much more usable guns.

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The F-5E FCU is probably my favorite… Granted I never got to play it before the BR changes so it might’ve been a lot more fun before too… I was off by 2 damn days…

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