i genuinely never faced 5.7s in it, i dont think i ever faced 6.0s and rarely faced 6.3s
its good in 7.0 but it has no lineup
you would only have that and maybe a plane there, otherwise its useless to bring lower br vehicles up just to have a lineup with the SPz
Saw it all the time playing 5.7
Again, make suggestions for 7.0 vehicles
i cant just go and ask Rheinmetall to make a shitty vehicle by modern standards so that Gaijin puts it at 7.0 out of pity in like 5 years
Doesn’t have to be modern
Germany doesnt have any 7.0 worthy vehicles
7.0 is early cold war, a time when Germany didnt quite get on with producing any vehicles, for obvious reasons
(unless maybe a Marder without an ATGM?)
On the otherhand, the potential for Swiss ground vehicles opens up the options
Panzer 58 for example
It does have a lineup, for veterans of this game. However, it’s not good enough to bring out if you do have that lineup. Here is what I use at 7.0, since the Flakpanzer APHE changes:
Now, apart from the few games I had in the 341 when it was still 6.3, I’ve had the SPz in my lineup every single game. Do you know how many times I’ve brought it out? Once. Just once. There isn’t a situation that really calls for it when you do have the German 7.0 lineup. It’s no way as good as the WZ China just got at 6.7, either.
They very much do, they were just removed from the game. KT 10.5, Panther 2, Flakpanzer, all wonderful vehicles. Sadly, not available to those who don’t have them. Currently steamrolling the enemy with Germany 7.0. Quite an overpowered lineup. Hopefully Gaijin will offer more than just the Maus when it’s back this year.
Edit:
TLDR: If you already have the German 7.0 lineup, it’s not worth bringing the SPz over other options. If you don’t have the German 7.0 lineup, it’s not worth uptiering your 6.7 lineup to 7.0 just for the SPz.
They are undertiered too. All the recoilless HEAT slingers need to be 8.0 minimum.
the only reason why its 7.0 is, becaus its belogs to the “wrong nation”.
the same with the luchs and wiesel: same Br as the BTR, ZSU23, M163 is a joke. Either german players are simply better or the are other “reasons”.
care to elaborate why is their BR placement a joke?
lol, i think bro is saying Germany gets the French BR treatment (they don’t)
Im sure he has proper and elaborate explanation ready, at hand /s
the only reason is that german playerbase are just better
It also has a lineup at 7.3 and 7.7.
Just because something is 7.0 doesn’t mean it has to be exactly at 7.0.
Germany, USA, and France all get the same BR treatment.
@Sephirot_Gebura
Type 60 isn’t a fast fully enclosed tank. It’s objectively inferior.
@Burgermankillz
BTR is indeed equal to Luchs.
Not sure why you claim Germany is the wrong tech tree.
The others you listed are false equivalencies. ZSU23 is a chronically slow SPAA without a radar.
And M163 is a chronically slow SPAA with only tracking.
You don’t need to tell me that. I uptier vehicles all the time. However, I don’t think the SPz is worth taking in those lineups.
The SPz 12-3 has some major advantages over the Fiat 6614, it definitely deserves the 7.0 BR
If anything the Type 60 SPRG should move up to 7.0 as well
The Fiat 6614 should be the baseline in this case, not the Type 60 SPRG or WZ141
(The WZ141 has less pen, worse depression/elevation and lacks the ranging MGs that make the recoilless rifles a lot easier to use, btw)
What in the world is going on with your SPz record. Hard day at the office with 26% winrate, lol. Must have been when it first came out and teams of SPz were getting farmed.
To be fair, I suck at the game lol
I think the winrate is a result of 6.7 Germany players and apparently only bringing it out when I’m losing