Irist is also a iir seeker head missile just like p5 and aim9x
I figured I just wasn’t sure
It does not translate to optical actually it is very powerful than optical lock if iir was given no countermeasure in game will be able to defeat it because it is like a ir image of the target and flare are just ignored only bol flare works by creating a whole layer of ir behind jet but in game it does not work
It also just a lazy explanation
All of the mentioned are IIR, both IRIS-T, 9X and P5. That does not translate to optical lock in game. Non of the missiles get it. In game they get seeker shutoff and FoV shrink. P5 should get it, as it is IIR and CCD IRL. 9X and IRIS-T are IIR only.
I’m aware we don’t have true IIR (unless you count the Spike which I do) but tracking the image of a target is close enough for balance purposes. Again not that it matters we need FM and radar fixes. In my mind everything else is secondary
Even after months all the spaa are broken and gaijin does not want to fix anything they will say tell us what is wrong than say not a bug yeah man probably because they are working on new update and will drop something more broken
Well not all of them, SLM and CLAWS seem to be fine. Admittedly CS/SA5 and Elde are kinda meh but at least theyre functional
As for something more broken, my guess is ARMs and medium range SAMs. Also ive heard they’re just gonna skip Buk M2 and go straight to M3 for RUS which is ridiculous
I’m sure Israel is simply kind enough to give out similar systems for just a fraction of the price.
Considering Kenya still operates decades old tanks, it’s safe to assume they value the cost over anything else basically.
Stating that Spyder is amazing because countries like Kenya and Romania decided to buy it is a bit naive.
Im not stating it is amazing because other countries are purchasing it. I’m stating it’s amazing because of its stellar combat record and using the fact that there has been an uptick in sales to various nations as secondary reference to prove my claim. Its obviously good enough for many nations to consider buying and its lower price point and proven record are obvious given these nations aren’t buying something like the Pantsir for example.
Where it did see combat and against what ?
cheap*
Considering Romania and Czech Republic are members of NATO, I doubt they’d buy anything RU-made under any circumstances.
SPYDER saw combat against Drones and missiles in the Isreal Iran conflict as a defensive measure during Iran’s retaliatory strikes. It also saw limited use on the Indo Pakistani conflict in the same role. No units were lost
I agree, but the M3 is the only one that is FnF, as all other variants to my knowledge are SARH.
It clearly shows Spyder is working as intended then, no bugfixes needed comrade.
Its actually simple explanation.
Helis still have liquid nitrogen engines. Haven’t tested Spyder specifically on Live myself because lmao playing Ground, but if Stinger (baseline 6km all aspect lock) loses track of a heli in test flight, most ideal o conditions around 2.2km, its safe to assume 9km baseline lock of a Python (all new “IIR” missiles really) would lose lock of the same heli around 3.3km. Then you factor HIRSS further reducing heat signature.
Usual MAW has detection range of 5km, then it automatically deploys flares/chaff unless pilot disabled that feature.
Flare detection range is 9km for P5/other "IIR"s
Therefore missile will see automatically deployed flares before it sees heli, while flying with its wide 5 degrees pre-lock FoV. Then due to rather liberal automatic application of flares, seeker immediately goes into suspended state, seeing more than one heat signature. Maybe if P5 had datalink, it would be able to hit helis, but only due to updated IOG location than seeker actually seeking things.
Literally a spike has better IRCM
well duh. “IIR” seekers in game have 5 degrees FoV pre lock (R60 kind of FoV) and 0.25 degree FoV post lock coupled with tracking suspension as flare rejection, on top of having usual lock range limitations, like mentioned baseline 9km against test subject of Mig-15 flying 0.8mach at sea level.
IR AGMs have 0.1 degree FoV and lock range is AFAIK limited by target angular size up to hard limit of 20km, ie tank sized target is usually tracked around 11km, TOR, somewhat larger utensil is locked around 13km, ships are locked all the way to the hard limit of 20km. Ground launched Spike LR2 has even narrower FoV of 0.05 degrees, otherwise seems identical seeker wise?
Quick test with Battlehawk and Spike ER locks test flight Migs around 14km. Missile has no hopes of ever catching it flying in circles, but it does its best to track it.
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“Not a bug”
Reason: will buff israel and make bs dircm usless against python 5 and we cant allow that
And thats most likely answer, as Gaijin doesn’t model dual band seekers and has no intention of doing so. The most charitable option would be toggle between IR and optical like its with Strela.
Its about time they will model it
Shouldnt be too hard to implement