Yeah I js carry 2 DRB and 6 P5s. Works sometimes, Im in a match right now and I got a kill w/ the Derby (Was a brain dead Typhon at 5 km lol) but yeah its BS, the IRIS-T SLM is hitting targets 20-30km away while we can’t hit more than 7 consistently
It just wont be compeitive. Fine? sure, it’ll work for a SPAA. It wont be competitive w/ a max of 15km range, the Pantsir outdoes the Range of 15km and its been in the game for how long? its all down to we get the short end of every stick known to Gajian and the Big 3 get the whole stick.
20 30 km is a big strech tbh
I have the slm and sure it has it moments but the irist still doing some stupid unnececery lofts and it missing target (still better then p5 ofc)
Pantair on the other hand is even better now cuz u can do the lead mode and fire from the radar screen which makes it like a full radar guided missile and ofc u can fire 4 at the same time
Not really, if you go to 12.0 you’ll get 20km kills regularly, for 12.0 it’s quite op, best kill was shot at 30km and killed at 24km.
It still has issues but it’s miles better than Spyder, and i think the issues that plague the SLM also affects the Spyder anyway.
Also i really don’t get why they didn’t give Derby ER, it would still be worse than the SLM so the fact they left it with normal Derby is mind boggling.
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I will test it cuz i only played few games with the slm but i did noticed that for close targets the auto pilot does weird stuff
We found it was able to hit a target at ranges of over 25km
Testing paramaters:
Map:
[Battle] Sands Of Sinai
Day, Clear
Targets:
F-16D
Payload
x2 9m Sidewinder
x2 Derby Air-to-Air Missiles
x4 Spice 1000 Guided Bombs
x1 Fuel Tank
30% Fuel- 11:00 Minutes of fuel
Spice 1000 Guided Bombs
Parameters
Launch 15km
Speed: 0.98
Height: 7km
What transpired:
Upon Release of the Spice 1K bombs the F-16D went Cold at a 100 Degree angle. The IRIS-T SLM engaged upon the Spice 1K bombs and intercepted without issue. Upon reaching a range of 30km the F-16D turned hot and climbed to an altitude of 10KM Radar Alt. The IRIS-T SLM launched upon the F-16D at a range of 28km W/ a Closure rate of 600m/s. The F-16D went into a notch while dropping Chaff and Flare. Upon reaching an altitude of 8km the F-16D turned to climb up and went back hot. At a range of 24.6km the IRIS-T SL hit the F-16D and destroyed the aircraft.
Summary: F-16D was unable to Destroy IRIS-T SLM SPAA w/ Spice 1000 Guided bombs. The IRIS-T was able to intercept both the F-16D and the Spice 1000s at ranges exceeding 20km with enough speed to intercept ranges exceeding 25km to 30km upon launch conditions.
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How goes the various bug reports. Are we still being ignored?
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accepted doesnt really mean anything but;
report about the python wiggle has been accepted
report about the missing smokeless motor has been accepted
report about faulty radar had its accepted label removed
no progress about any of the TopLite tracking and stabilizing feature
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also fix the speed and turning of the P5s
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Its a start at least. What about the Derby not going pitbull?
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It’s not even confirmed which SPYDER it will be, and plan cancellations are very common
Besides, Italy can just get other systems
Ill have to find the article i read but it’s supposed to be AiO
The only thing pointing that they will get the AIO is when it was showcased as a model during 2024 in Romania. It could be the AIO, but I ain’t sure, as other blogs just say its a SPYDER without mentioning the specific variant when the model was shown during 2024
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That is indeed the model of early AIO.
But what’s the big missile on the right?
Pretty sure that’s an iron dome interceptor
https://www.zona-militar.com/en/2024/05/09/romania-emerges-as-next-customer-for-rafael-spyder-air-defense-system/ this article confirms they tested the AiO. Which means it’s likely the one they plan to buy
All this said ofc, until SPYDER is fixed I wouldnt want any other nation to deal with it. Its a broken mess rn. Its nearly impossible to intercept munitions with it and the range is absolutely unusable for a top tier SAM
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Stunner, can be identified easily due to the giant booster and 2 manouvering fins at the back
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Welp, I was perusing the bug reports on SPYDER and found noone has reported the I-Derby-SR not going pitbull. I’m a console player and thus cannot provide good quality pictures and videos to prove this. Can anyone else do so? Even if our radar gets fixed without I-DERBY-SR we still lack a solid long range option
Lets be realistic, unless someone has fully declassified materials about Derby ER motor, Gaijin will simply assume “ER” means “three seconds of sustainer extra, take or leave it” which won’t change anything with rather draggy flight model of the missile.
Actually, giving that 3s sustainer extra in Statshark is enough to intercept non evading target with launch distance of 40km, with target flying at 5km alt, 1100km/h, coming from “subsonic and medium altitude” on Derby ER brochure.
However 3s longer sustainer is far inadequate to meet 100km head on range without extending guidance time to 140s, as missile spends entire energy on climbing to 12km, then freefalls with speed of an A-10. Same launch and target conditions.
However that 3s extra would increase thrust by rather substantial 52%, 64251,2N → 98091,2N. At the same time, its still far cry from IRIS-T SLM having 151200N force behind her motor, while missile itself isn’t that much heavier AND it received substantial air drag reduction.
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