Pretty sure that’s an iron dome interceptor
https://www.zona-militar.com/en/2024/05/09/romania-emerges-as-next-customer-for-rafael-spyder-air-defense-system/ this article confirms they tested the AiO. Which means it’s likely the one they plan to buy
All this said ofc, until SPYDER is fixed I wouldnt want any other nation to deal with it. Its a broken mess rn. Its nearly impossible to intercept munitions with it and the range is absolutely unusable for a top tier SAM
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Stunner, can be identified easily due to the giant booster and 2 manouvering fins at the back
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Welp, I was perusing the bug reports on SPYDER and found noone has reported the I-Derby-SR not going pitbull. I’m a console player and thus cannot provide good quality pictures and videos to prove this. Can anyone else do so? Even if our radar gets fixed without I-DERBY-SR we still lack a solid long range option
Lets be realistic, unless someone has fully declassified materials about Derby ER motor, Gaijin will simply assume “ER” means “three seconds of sustainer extra, take or leave it” which won’t change anything with rather draggy flight model of the missile.
Actually, giving that 3s sustainer extra in Statshark is enough to intercept non evading target with launch distance of 40km, with target flying at 5km alt, 1100km/h, coming from “subsonic and medium altitude” on Derby ER brochure.
However 3s longer sustainer is far inadequate to meet 100km head on range without extending guidance time to 140s, as missile spends entire energy on climbing to 12km, then freefalls with speed of an A-10. Same launch and target conditions.
However that 3s extra would increase thrust by rather substantial 52%, 64251,2N → 98091,2N. At the same time, its still far cry from IRIS-T SLM having 151200N force behind her motor, while missile itself isn’t that much heavier AND it received substantial air drag reduction.
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i had the same thought. I don’t even understand it anymore at this point, this must be on purpose.
and i still don’t get it how python 5 is slower than a mim-72.
I’ve seen videos of dudes getting killed literally on the airfield. Crzay how far that thing reaches.
Rn the SLM is by far the best of the new spas.
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We need decompression. Ground BRs need to be expanded to 13.0. I myself don’t play Israel, but I am a fan of you guys getting a proper working Spyder. Even when it is fixed, it still won’t be as effective as the IRIS-T SLM, so IRIS would be 13.0 and Spyder 12.7, along with Pantsir and CLAWS. My beloved but poor Tan-SAM kai wouldn’t go higher than 12.3.
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It still doesnt attack the core issue. SPYDER is unplayable rn, it’s blind and it’s missiles need to be fixed. Even if its worse than the other new systems it needs to be usable or Israel is in the same spot it has been. With the Derby not working you are forced to take P5 and if the enemy spawns a heli with LDIRCM you are screwed
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I hope you’re joking.
Don’t worry, I know the feeling. The Tan-SAM radar is wrong too, lacks several functions, the launchers are bugged as hell, the IR missile lacks IOG + DL… but at least they track.
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this spaa is a joke, terrible performance in game, incredibly artificially nerfed
Don’t think it’s artificially nerfed, the guidance, the radar and the missiles are just not modelled properly. It’s as if they spent a whole month fine-tuning the IRIS-T SLM and only gave the SPYDER half a day.
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Business suits have been filed for less, but I recommend you reread the comments before that point. I wasn’t saying they would
Oh no it’s definitely artificially nerfed. Gaijin keeps shooting down bug reports on both IRL stats and issues in game such as the Python wobbling. The radar behaves like a Mechanically scanned array and is blind most of the time. Seriously 70% of the time I can’t see incoming missiles other times they look like they are jumping to hyperspace when they aren’t even targeting me. The Python wobbles so much that it can’t keep its seeker on target, and the derby still doesn’t go pitbull. Not to mention the ghost signatures. this system just helped fend off irans counter attack in conjunction with David’s sling and iron dome/iron beam, but in game it can barely intercept slow moving bombs
If they want to make this thing playable it takes three simple steps.
- Make the radar operate properly including its ability to operate while the mast is retracted, this will go anlong way to improving the SPYDERs overall performance
- Fix the Pythons “Wobble” there is plenty of evidence that has been presented to gaijin that Pythons do not struggle to right themselves.
- Fix the Derby not going active and give the SPYDER its DL channels so you can engage more than one target effectively with them
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your also forgetting that the P5 can be fired without the radar
Toplite EO can acquire targets too
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I was gonna add that but honestly i would say the three changes I outlined are overall more impactful.
and like the turning of the P5s