Spitfire Mk.5b - Soviet Supermarine

Suggestions Aircraft
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yak9k is that br it doesnt do anything the USSR doesn’t have

22

Im so used to using the trop for the British 3.7 lineup I think its the normal one sometimes. either way its futile adding it when the 9k exists

23

it would give it a good dogfighter and imo the Yak-9K is more of a ground attack aircraft, I find Hispanos easier to use than the 45mm against aircraft.

there isn’t really a reason (beyond “C&P”) not to add it, especially since its not a one off vehicle and was used in frontline combat by the russians

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I don’t think it’s fair to compare the Soviet Spitfire Mk Vb with the Yak-9T or Yak-9K, since they were designed for entirely different roles and purposes.

Besides, the USSR lacks solid 4.0 options for Air Arcade Battles, and this could be one potential solution.

25

If the soviet air branch was in the same status as our early jets.
‘Barking big for being large but no bites’

I might have no reason to be confusing myself about this suggestion.

  1. Lend-Lease vehicles are good to see for me.

  2. They really used them IRL like Hampden.

  3. What if the Soviets had nothing useful in their domestic props, then why not?

I think it is quite tragic that soviet TT is so solid that I can’t support this idea even though I want to see our effort to the Soviets.

Their domestic planes are just doing so good with various options.

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26

I185 and LA5 is already in the game and is a good fighter

Lend lease is best as a way to plug gaps in a tech tree, the USSR air tree doesnt have this problem at all.

its not like with ground where the tree would truly benefit from a british mk2 and valentyn

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If the soviet tree didnt have such a diverse amount of aircraft with such favourable flight models and BR placements id fully back it, however that isnt the situation the tree is in

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28

I saw your post for the U.S. Spitfire Mk.5b as well, there’s apparently a trop variant as well, those would be great to see.

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29

I’ve suggested the Mk Vc/trop for the US, along with the Mk VIII as well.

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30

Dammit, I really want to see our beautiful spitfire in soviet tt too. Because sharing things is good, And it will be a perfect event/battle pass reward.

But I just can’t find where we need to place her.
Soviet TT are just way too solid and I can’t find a gap for her.
:'(

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31

It’d probably fall as a premium or event/battlepass.
Theres always a place to squeeze it in the research tree though.

32

will have to play the brit tree for that brit vehicle still im afraid

33

There’s nothing wrong with adding more content like this, even if the gap is already filled.

Some people get really dogmatic about what should or shouldn’t be added, which seems silly to me. After all, we’re not the ones making the decisions about what gets developed and added in the game.

This could be a low-priority addition that might eventually arrive in the future if War Thunder starts running out of content ideas.

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34

This should be .303 Browning Mk.II

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35

ban lend lease or captured vehicles unless they are all on the same team

36

Something like that, yeah

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37

i mean we cant block them from being used in sim as that would destroy the existence of the china tree in its entirety

38

I think this discussion belongs elsewhere, since this aircraft isn’t only relevant to air simulator battles. You should submit it as a separate suggestion, probably.

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39

You might change this - as it is not correct in 2 aspects:

  1. Lend-Lease
  • Lend-Lease aircraft are determined as aircraft provided by the US to allies from 1941 until August 1945 (then the Lend-Lease Act ended).
  • In addition we have so called reverse Lend-Lease by the UK (planes for the US) and something similar from Canada (for the UK).
  • The Empire was broken, these were regular exports - to be paid by the USSR. I have no data if, when and how they were paid, but calling them Lend-Lease is not correct.
  • Lend-Lease existed from November 41 till August 45. Mainly as the US government was forced to find a way around export restrictions (like the previous cash & carry legislation) - which represented actually the will of the US citizens to stay out of trouble in Europe.
  1. Contribution / impact of the VB to the VVS
  • If you consider that we talk about ~ 150 aircraft (most of them 2nd hand) and they have not gained any remarkable impact, they played zero role.

Nevertheless i up-voted this suggestion as i have read various times about Spitfire kill claims of LW pilots in their memoirs or biographies, but mostly for a short period in 43.

As a side note:

  1. The clear and undisputed inferiority of the Vb vs a plain Fw 190 A-3 or A-4 is not modelled within wt - thanks to various nerfs of 190s the roles are switched.
  2. So it is a bit strange to argue with (non-existent) historical significance as justification for a possible implementation when wt is unable or unwilling to provide accurate flying / fighting experiences of already implemented aircraft.

Have a good one!

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40

You could be right, I’ll continue to correct the post as needed, thank you so much.

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