The entire EW suite, radar etc. It’s simply not fesable to introduce such features and have them compete with the Rafale/Eurofighter
Which isnt modeled on anything and aircraft like the Typhoon also have EW
We are already expecting CAPTOR-E Any day now as per the CM Chat 7 and Rafale already has AESA.
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As far as I can tell EW, proper ECM, radar data-link/radar sharing (or whatever they call that radar communication thing) aren’t going to be added anytime soon
Or even at all lmao
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X-59 in trailer, I guess X-38MT wasnt enough.
But I guess Spear and SCALP are too OP to be added
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Base Kh-59 (Kingbolt) is only going to be semi-useful for the USSRs 11.3 strike planes
Kh-59M (Kazoo) is worse than the Kh-38 in regular GRB gameplay
It will at the very least be X-59M2 or MK2 because the version in the trailer had a TV seeker.
Plus I mean I think the ability to have 4x 150km+ missiles and 2x X-29Ts will be slightly overpowered. The only reason that the devs wont add SPEAR or SCALP is because they are ‘too long range’.
I dont think there is really any excuse for X-59 in the game right now, its pretty obvious that Russia is getting a LOT of support (which it doesnt need at all) for CAS. Then they also have the two best AA systems in the game right now.
If they add X-59, ASM-2 needs its seeker to work against ground targets and we need SCALP and SPEAR
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That’s kinda how it’s gonna be for a bit.
Proves what I’m saying, no? Such planes won’t be added, they are way too advanced IRL.
Think of it like adding the F35, but without any stealth because such capabilities “isnt modeled”. That would give us a top notch, modern F35 that struggles to keep up with the current top-tier lineup. Ripping out such crucial features for the sake of simply adding the plane isn’t the way forward.
Like the Typhoon and Rafale?
Heck even the Tornado and Harrier Gr7 have ECM suites
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Well, judging by Statshark — no.
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The Kh-59 has a TV seeker, unless they are going for the MK with a working ARH seeker, which likely either wouldn’t work at all (ASM-2) or only against ships (Kormoran).
If they add it with a ARH seeker that actually works against tanks, that opens the door for much more useful NATO weapons than Storm Shadow/SCALP.
(SPEAR isn’t even an option in the first place)
Until the devserver opens it is hard to tell which planes will get the Kh-59, which variant each plane gets and how many each plane will actually be able to carry (amount can be limited for balance reasons).
They are most likely adding F-35s before autumn next year and they probably won’t have proper ECM either
I dont entirely agree with that actually
Its one of the few things that would fit the “modern air warfare technologies” in this statement and its something I am still potentially expecting to see this major update or next.
Though I do agree its irrelevant for why the Gripen E has yet to be added
Why not?
In the CM thing that mentioned the multi vehicle SAMs they also claimed to be working on electronic support systems, but we have yet to see them add such things.
They all share same Kh-29T seeker it cannot lock target from farther than 12 km in really good weather.
SPEAR isn’t operational yet, or did I miss something?
The last thing I heard was test test launches from a Typhoon, no proper integration, no (to my knowledge) final specifications and the project won’t be finalised for another 4 to 5 years
So… the Tornado’s, Harrier Gr7’s ECM suit is somehow comparable to the ones of the 39E, F35 etc? I’m sorry to burst your bubble, but there has been innovation since the 80’s
Spear-3 has been test fired
This is more than enough for Gaijin to add it and is more evidence than the KH-38MT has. (SRAAMs for example were added purely based upon similar test firings. Bar soviet weapons, the standard is usually evidence the weapon was fully assembled and operational, ideally with evidence of being test fired at least once)
Though for some reason, despite being fine adding the Brimstone as SAL only. They refuse to even consider adding the Spear-3 as GPS+SAL only at this time… its wierd.
Spear-Glide have yet to be test fired though which is a shame.
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Your argument is that the Gripen E hasnt been added yet because it has an EW Suite.
So does the Tornado, Typhoon, Harrier, Rafale, F-15, F-16, Gripen C, etc etc.
Typhoon and Rafale probably have comprable EW suites to the Gripen NG anyway and they are already in game.
The more likely explanation for why Gripen E hasnt been added yet is either
A) They cant get AESA + Gimball to work correctly
or
B) They are for some reason waiting till Gen 5 IIR missiles.
There are dozens of examples of aircraft being added before certain equipment was later added to them. Like MAWS and Tpods. Even Fox-3s
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