Spawn point problem between two different aircraft roles in war thunder

[kennyS9]

The problem occurs when you spawn a fighter and when you get destroyed, the strike aircraft will be counted as the spawn point of the second fighter.

[Necronomica]

This on purpose, it was changed this major update to be counted on ordinance brought instead of vehicle type.

@Stona_WT

• The rules for calculating the Spawn Point (SP) cost for spawning a second or subsequent aircraft in Ground Realistic and Naval Battles have been changed. The SP multiplier for a second aircraft spawn no longer depends on the aircraft’s class (e.g., fighter, attacker). Instead, it is determined by the loadout of the prior aircraft that was spawned. Aircraft spawns are now categorized into two types based on the aircraft’s loadout: “Anti-Air” (Aircraft equipped with air-to-air missiles, and with no secondary armament, including cannon belts with 40 mm of penetration or more) and “Strike Aircraft” (Aircraft equipped with bombs, rockets, air-to-surface missiles, torpedoes, mines, or cannon belts with 40 mm of penetration or more).
  • “ Anti-Air”: Aircraft that are equipped with air-to-air missiles and have no secondary armament, or cannon belts for Spawn Points with 40 mm of penetration or more.
  • “ Strike Aircraft”: Aircraft equipped with bombs, rockets, air-to-surface missiles, torpedoes, mines, or cannon belts for Spawn Points with 40 mm of penetration or more.

Note that with the new system, an aircraft can’t simultaneously count as both “Anti-Air” and “Strike Aircraft”, hence an aircraft which has both strike weapons and anti-air missiles equipped at the same time will be counted as “Strike Aircraft” and will not cause the cost of spawning in “Anti-Air” aircraft to increase.

It’s also important to note that belts that cost no Spawn Points do not make the aircraft a “Strike Aircraft” regardless of their armor penetration.

• The Spawn Point cost for ammunition belts with 40 mm of penetration or more has been removed for aircraft of Rank VI and above in Ground Realistic and Simulator Battles. The cannon armament on these high-rank aircraft is no longer a primary means of destroying ground vehicles, and therefore its high SP cost was not justified.

[kennyS9]

but the spawn point of that 2nd plane is too much, if that point is around for example (900 points (plane points not counted reduced by scout) + weapon points doubled) around 1300 to 1400 points instead of counting double the spawn point of that plane

[Necronomica]

I’m not sure i understand what you mean.

Before this update if you previously spawned strike aircraft the second strike aircraft spawn cost would double.

Now after update if you spawn an aircraft with air to ground munitions any aircraft with air to ground munition spawned after that is doubled no matter the type, it’s not only munition cost that is doubled.

[Lightning_Prince]

The spawn to cost an aircraft is absurd now.

[Necronomica]

First spawn is unchanged, it’s the second spawn that is changed and is based on munition so if you don’t bring air to ground on your second spawn it will not cost more than before.

[Lightning_Prince]

158 extra SP for spawning in a plane with a gun that has 40MM+ penetration? 158! thats actually diabolical when it costs SPAA 70 to spawn in

[kennyS9]

For example,the first plane has spawn points of 900 points (500 points for aircraft and 400 points for ground weapons), and the second plane is being counted more than 3 times including 500 points for aircraft and 1300 points for ground weapons, that is too much, so why bring a plane with a different role when the spawn points are the same as an old plane with the same weapons?

[Necronomica]

@kennyS9

so why bring a plane with a different role when the spawn points are the same as an old plane with the same weapons?

That is exactly why they changed it, so that players wouldn’t do this.
MANY MANY players were complaining about there being to many planes in GRB (It’s likely one of the most discussed topics on the forum). This is probably the DEV’s solution to that issue as players won’t be able to spawn in two planes in the same match as easily anymore.