Yeah, ideally there should be a variety of maps of different sizes and play styles to cater for different tastes. the issue is the very few large maps are largely completely flat with very little cover.
Which is extra bad for new players with low crew skills given the “keen vision” skill means that they can be staring at an enemy tank and it will not even render for them, mean while it, with it’s aced crew, can see them just fine.
no we had that before, it was terrible. People just camp in spawn all game and you cannot remove them unless you CAS them. Better idea, you don’t want to be spawn camped, don’t let the enemy team spawn camp you. Novel thought I know.
then stop them? The reason the game “devolves” into spawn camping is because once the game is over what else are you supposed to do? Im not going to wait for you to retake map control, im going to camp you in the spawn until you leave the game. Plenty of nations have fast tanks that can push the spawn early, you could do it too but I have a suspicion that you are one of those “moralizer” players and if thats the case. AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH.
Broader point, russia is extremely annoying to play agaisnt, but not because they rush the spawn. Mainly the mi28nm and literally every single russian player having a free pantisr. Its just not fun to play agaisnt because of those 2 things.
this is just completely untrue, gaijin has explicitly said in the past that most players prefer the smaller maps. The only people that want larger maps are bad players, simple as. This is so obvious if you play for any length of time, the huge maps are almost never in rotation. Reason? Because most people have those maps banned.
You have the equation backward.
bad players - like big maps
good player - like smaller maps
see first statement.
Spawn camping is probably the dumbest complaints of all time lol like what do they expect people to do? move back to a useless position so the enemy could advance?
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Thats literally what these players want, too bad. Im spawn camping you if you let me. These group therapy sessions can shove it.
meh.
It’s what Gaijin wants.
They have given Russia a mobile fortress with decent speed.
in quite a l lot of my 10.7 matches, the BS magical wonder machines will drive straight to spawn and just sit there.
So there aren’t really a problem if you ask Gaijin.
Gaijins shredder is hungry, and it’s being fed. Another post to be ignored. Sure, I like the idea, but even if it did come to a poll, Russian Playerbase would spam vote against it
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Them taking likes/dislikes is a pretty flawed way of doing their “research” on if people love smaller or larger maps.
I can like a map because it’s good to play on, not because it’s small or big.
It more goes to show that Gaijin sucks at making big maps, but to some people (like Gaijin) it’s never their fault.
After we saw the dev telling us players we are wrong and know nothing, ANYTHING Gaijins says can’t be taken serious.
They aren’t wrong on everything, but they sometimes say things without a second look.
I always thought that the issue was that “Spawn-Camping” is as common in this game.
Though I could agree that in some ways, It could be improved by negating the risk of doing so.
Such as…:
- Constant Bombardment of Artillery that is Accurate and while your in that zone.
- Progressive Damage the longer your in the Zone.
- Increased ‘invincibility time’ WHILE you’re in the zone +10 second ‘While moving’
- 5 Second Border-line timer once it tells you to leave this Area: You’ll explode.
Point is that it’s ridiculous that the Spawn-Camping is a Viable feature in War-Thunder.
Though I also am not trying to condescend the problem. Additionally
It’s ridiculous to see teams allowing enemies to get to their spawn in the first 2-3 minutes of the game.
This game has a lemming problem, spawn camping is just a by-product of that.
The map design doesn’t help in a lot of cases, Carpathians A point having a dirct line of fire into BOTH of the south teams spawn points for example, or European province where you get LOS into the spawn before you even get to the A point so you either have to stop and camp their spawn or get killed from their spawn trying to get the point.
Died to a Mig-27, and another.
Bad CAS jets…
You can just leave if people are in your spawn… no penalty.
The lemming problem is “skill issue” and you can’t predict people choose the same spawn location like you.
To be honest I don’t mind the spawn camping, sometimes you can even get a kill or 3 of it. However I do like the suggestion of TS. To make the area like other ‘red’ areas and give enemy tanks some secs to get out or they simply get destroyed.
love how ppl just ignored that random guy ragebait
Spawn camping is so bad they even spawn camp air spawns while losing
“no penalty” like you dont get a 5 min crew lock for leaving
Like I said as well, I never had a real problem with it because you could always get out of it or at least kill 3 or 4 of the 5 people spawn camping before spawn protection ran out.
But now, it’s 2 BMPTS that are impossible to kill in 1 or 2 shots, 2 T80s/72s, and jets spawn camping all at the same time making it impossible to do anything.