Spall liners need a nerf

Or XM885 needs a buff?

How many different ERA panels did you hit?

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Have you considered shooting another part of the tank /s

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Two in non ERA rear, spall ate one, other didn’t do anything
3 in the middle, didn’t even detonate the era
2 in the front track sideways

Tell me you never played hstvl or rdflt lol

I may have never played the hstvl or rdf but i have played the otomatic so I understand the pain

That’s just Relikt doing Relikt things.

Regularly see 90M/80BVM’s side bags eat 600mm+ penning darts.

Been this way for years.

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Oto has a slightly better shell than the HSTVL/RDF but yeah, T80, T90s Era is a PITA

So no panel ate more than 1 shot?

In that case not seeing the issue given you have old gen APFSDS and Relikt is supposed to counter it.

Dude… you hit the tracks multiple times, THAT is what stopped your rounds, not the ERA.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you hit roof armor with that display of aiming…
Aim more accurately next time, you’ll do better.

ERA is at most under-performing, and likely performing as it should.

And Circleati already knows more about how to use the HSTVL than that video does.

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pretty colours :)

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@ileaveuptiers
Yes, I have dozens of hours [if not hundreds] in auto-lights and thanks for showing my high performance in an unspaded vehicle that’s above even that of 2S38 and VCC-80/60.

I didn’t start speaking on auto-lights until I learned them. Never once claimed the Begleit was anything while I was struggling with that, only ever spoke the moment I understood them.

Watch the video instead of cherry-picked screenshots.
I would never panic shot like that myself, and I wouldn’t hit the tracks or aim high for that matter.

Also stop derailing this topic with your off-topic rant.

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On a serious note, you don’t have enough experience in T7 or T8 for me to take you seriously.

@ileaveuptiers
So because I only have 400+ hours at T8 that’s not enough experience… Dude wants me to make War Thunder my full time job for him to take me seriously.

Prove that I’ve never died to a Kh-38MT, I’ll wait.
Cause I can tell you each time I did, it was twice, but I can tell you the exact situations.
With an almost third when I was in Black Night, but you can assess why the Kh-38MT failed against Black Night.

It’s sad how you dismiss everyones’ experience while I acknowledge ALL players’ experience…
This will be my last reply to your derailing off-topic posts.

@ileaveuptiers
Stop derailing topics.

Spall liner magically repairs itself? I think 3rd shot in, the spall liner is destroyed but two other shots afterward get caught in the already broken spall liner?

I’m not an XM885 expert and I don’t know much about the rounds, however I do believe that Gaijin should inplement the Anti-ERA tip found on some APFSDS rounds. But, I don’t think the ERA itself overperforms but rather just random wacko value points. Earlier today I nonpenned the turret side of a T32 with an M47, for example. It isn’t because my APHE underperforms or the T32 overperforms, but rather because the game’s armor and hit/damage calculation system is very cooked

Spall liners are also so needlessly annoying and on certain tanks are arguably overperforming. I had a match and had around 7 rounds of M900 eaten by a Chally 2 OES’ spall liners despite them being “destroyed” in the X-rays

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As much as I’d love to agree with you, I can’t. I think the anti-era apfsds would be game breaking vs russia as they are pretty un-armored otherwise. I do think ERA and Spall liners could use an overhaul though. They are overperforming. I’ve had a t80bvm eat a SEP V2 shell on a few different occasions

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That’s fair, they both do need severe overhauls and I honestly think spall liners weren’t the greatest addition (especially seeing as some nations didn’t get any)
It’d also help if the game didn’t go insane trying to calculate armor penetration and whatnot each time you fire or someone else does

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