My AMX-30 was just overpressued by a single 30-170 APHE from a Falcon. I front penned a T-10M through the mantlet with default belts on the AMX-30 DCA, twice. I killed an IS-4M from the front with the same vehicle yesterday. I watched a Gepard one-second burst an IS-7 and kill it.
The state of SPAA vs tanks is outright disgusting and I would rather die to CAS any day than these ridiculously toxic vehicles be able to roam about the map being first-spawned as tank destroyers. It is completely devoid of any skill. Even when the shells aren’t being absurdly buggy, having your optics blinded and your barrel destroyed in half a second is not remotely fun.
Everyone cried when the Flakpanzer did it yet high-tier SPAA has been doing the same thing if not worse for years.
Autocannons in general are completely braindead and devoid of any skill whatsoever.
Autocannons, which are mostly prevalent on SPAA(and numerous, compared to IFV’s/other light vehicles which usually just have one cannon) are able to fire off an immensely higher amount of RPM than traditional tanks can. This makes the prevalence rate much much higher. Even without bugs, these things naturally sneak their way into the tiniest of glitchy ‘unarmored’ spots on any tank, no matter how armoured they are, which facilities some really uninteresting gameplay. The argument is constantly made that ‘this would happen in real life’, ‘technical kills’, whatever - but the fact of the matter is this would rarely be occuring in real life at all as SPAA’s are almost never(if ever) deployed in combat the same way front-line tanks/MBTs are.
There must be skill involved if you’re only just positive KDR in the 341 since APHE change. Not only that, you’ve only killed four ground vehicle in your AMX30 DCA this year, while dying 36 times in it.
I’m too busy working to have abused peak FP341 that much, and when I did actually use it I played it exactly as I did 8 years ago and no different. Because I’m not in an abusive marriage with stats like you are.
I use the DCA as an SPAA, as I’m not a massive hypocrite such as yourself who makes threads like these while actively contributing to the issue. Proof is in the pudding given that I take full HE belts every game except for my last few where I experimented with default 50/50 AP/HEI mix. I unlocked the DCA last month(?) possibly less. What a pathetic act to say ‘this year’ as if I’ve been using it for the last five ahahaha. Bring up aircraft kills next and stop trying to ride me.
Do you always default to straight bullshit when you get caught with your pants down? Or what?
In my post I state I killed two heavy tanks from the front with the DCA. You say I’ve killed four ground vehicles total. No false claim.
I’ve had the DCA for a month or less. You bring up a completely irrelevant length of time to try and make my argument moot and yours right.
You’re lying through your teeth, as usual.
Just because I don’t participate in something I view as destructive of game quality, doesn’t make my argument any less valid. It strengthens it. Having even slightly below average intellect would allow you to see this.
Bring up my aircraft kills with the DCA, which I use as strictly SPAA, and compare it with deaths, to show an accurate representation of my gameplay in it. Don’t bring up ground kills which I actively avoid in an attempt to smear me. It’s desperate.
have fun talking to yourself buddy, aint no way I’m wasting my time arguing with someone as averse to nuance as you are
If you want SPAA to be nerfed, you shouldn’t make the topic because you’ve been handed around and abused by everyone when you drive an SPAA, a ground vehicle, anything. You’re out of your depth on this topic.
So? Read the topic title.
You can’t even string a coherent thought together, so funny.
You’re just trolling.
I’ll mute this topic so you don’t embarrass yourself any further.
If SPAA is so OP why has my average KDR in 7.3 - 9.3 MBTs remained unchanged or gone up?
Is it possible that my skill went up suddenly? Maybe.
It’s far more probable that people started spamming out sub-par vehicles to exploit a game bug where armor doesn’t work for fragments against other tanks and have been losing their vehicles more often.
The green is stuff I’ve been playing since the APHE bug started:
There’s many reasons for this that we can only speculate about, I personally wouldn’t attribute it to any reason beyond skill or luck as those are the most likely indicators.
I am a rather consistent player and have no real desire to increase my skill beyond its current capabilities.
Of course, there are times where I slip [Abrams SEP], but most of the time I don’t let my tactics change.
I have found myself in the situation of getting killed by an SPAA in a tank that should supposedly withstand hits, but that’s just bug. The AMX-30 (and such) dying to SPAA is something normal IMO, 0 armor.
The whole SPAA thing I don’t find it an issue or “OP”, I just find it annoying that it’s a valid gamestyle, that you can spawn in your ZA 35 or whatever and have 50/50 chance of destroying 1/3 of the enemy team in the first 5 minutes.
From the side or, on some SPAA, some close range turret cheek shots. The Falcon which did it was probably 400-500m away and hit the UFP which has around 200mm effective armour, vs the small caliber APHE.
