SPAA J'ing out before you can kill them

Wouldn’t that generate an enormous amount of confusion around automation of gameplay?
I instantly imagined an HSTV-L rushing a capture point, spoting 3-5 enemies and leaving the vehicle hidden within the capture point to J-out.

If it isn’t technically gone, the vehicle can work as a defensive decoy while the player switch to CAS. Sometimes is just better to keep things clunky but straightforward instead of developing potentially exploitable mechanics.

Good points, but it might still be better than the alternatives perhaps. A vehicle that is left behind could be made to not count for caps and i don’t think a player will be able to respawn fast enough to make use of the “decoy” left behind (though it could still be used as one be other players but honestly so could it if the player never J-out to begin with).

The idea is nice, another problem is, what if the player is cornered and J’s out then the vehicle will just sit idle and I’ll be sitting there waiting for him to pop out playing chicken with a J’ed out vehicle wasting my time without notice. It will cause a lot of issues.

Only solution would be to show an icon above the idle tank saying AI or showing its no longer player controlled on the map with an icon or something. There are a lot of same tanks in the field so will be hard to indicate who J’ed out sometimes.

As for planes/helis J-ed out, they can just instead crash. Solves the tanks/spaa J out issues but not for the aircrafts. Just dive and crash. Unless Gaijin finds a way to know who’s missile is closer to give the kill to that player lol

It feels like a lot of development for a confusing revamp overall.

May I insist: the goal of a potential revision of the J-ing out mechanic shouldn’t be to bring a precise and fail-proof justice rewards-wise in the first place, but to alienate the action of J-ing out to people that use it to negate kills.

Once people give up on j-ing out because they can no longer deny kills with it, justice will appear by itself.

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Maybe make the vehicle taken control by AI? So if person ragequits (as the game is designed to make people ragequit) the team at least have one more tank capable of shooting the enemy.

That could be an option if the actually leave the match, but not for J-out only as that would just mean that players would do that at start of game to double the amount of tanks on the field. But i think that might not be reasonable in terms of large scale implementation as it would likely use to much server recourses.

Idk man, sounds like a pretty good tactic to me. Using the game mechanic of leaving your vehicle, you deny the enemy spawn points to spawn, hence one player is less effective in the enemy team.

Its when i play cas with bullpups, i target tanks that are the highest br in the enemy team. Then i kill them when they spawn. Is it fun for them? definitely not. Am i trying to win the match? yes. Does insuring a player leave the match because they cant spawn help that. Yes. then ill do it.

Lower tiers if i kill a light tank, (and ive become pretty good at this) and i look in the air and scoreboard and see that theyve spawned a plane and their name no longer has a parachute icon next to it, i will j out if they come straight to me and drop a bomb. That way they can enjoy the plane they spawned for a scout and a cap worth of effort with no ordanance. if i can i spawn a plane and kill them, then theyre ussually down to spaa. I then fly anti cas the rest of the match while they sit in their spawn trying to hit me while im 3km away.

And they want you banned for doing this, and will argue, that your way to ensure win is “ToXiC”

They play family friendly checkers while you play chess.

Extremely toxic and I hope you get packet loss’d into the ground for every future sortie.

So if they were killed, and respawn, CAS should have the ability to kill them again? And repeat? Over and over?

What should happen is Self-D = removal of significant respawn points. That would curtail the behavior.
But apply this to planes that dive into the ground as well.

I do it all the time, but instead of some random poor fellow who got downtiered, I do it to ppl who are spawncamping, especially if they’re in ratty spots.

I just submited replay report with guy J-out of the SPAA as i was spawn camping him.
Mods said it’s not ok to deny me a kill, so i hope he will get punished.

obraz

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Tell me, what part is toxic about it?
I dont do it maliciously or out of spite for the player, i dont do it to revenge bomb them. I find the best player, or the one who i know is in a full downtier and actively target them so my team doesnt have to deal witht hem.

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People who got full downtiers, annihilating my team on the kill feed, in strong positions. It doesnt matter, the point is targeting players that will make life easy for your team.

The part where you intentionally ruin their game by spawncamping them? You don’t think that’s toxic at all?

No im “intentionally making sure this good player, or this player who got a full downtier doesnt destroy my team”

Ruining the experience of someone just cause you’re jealous that they got downtiered is toxic behavior. The fact that you’re saying it under the guise of “ItS foR My TeAm” just makes it even worse.

No, its not jealousy, he’s strategically dealing with a threat instead of going for none threat easy targets or revenge CAS. Spawn camping is a dirty move but its not against the rules either or toxic. If someone is spawn camping, its the teams fault for letting them get that advantage.

Lol i play 8.7 britain ALOT. the supermarine scimitar and buccanneer being my go to cas planes.
I almost exclusive get full downtiers or 9.0 games. Trust me i dont get jealous someone got a full downtier.

You also skipped the part where i said i also target whoevers stompping my team in certain parts of the map. I also help if my team is trying to get on a cap but cant. And yes, if i see someone whos in a full downtier and is smashing my team i will target them as much as possible.

Id rather i got targeted because the enemy sees me as a threat rather than have some brainlet smash his plane into me and press spacebar before hitting the ground because i killed them in their light tank once.