Even at that, I kill a surprising number of tanks with the 247. Just can’t kill them from the front.
I mean, you can do it, I just wouldn’t call it consisent. About on par with the Shilka, come to think of it.
It can kill tams and leopsrd frontslly if youre lucky
Absolutely a good comparison
2 kills at most and if you’re lucky. If the SPAA player isn’t braindead, and actually moves or stays behind cover until a plane is within range, then Walleyes are useless.
The only reason Walleyes get kills is bc most SPAA mains suck.
Where’s this “plenty of vehicles”? I’m seeing 2-3 enemy planes a game at 9.0.
All this means is it’s effective range is a lil further, not to mention its anti-tank capability is non-existent which is a massive downside.
Rank 1-4 planes have FnF missiles and CCIP? why’d no1 tell me?
Unfortunately there is no other ways to play it, either you let them know you exist to bait them into flying into your weapon effective range, or you sit still for the entire match with no action, or drive around and becoming a free meal for enemy mbts to become a cannon fodder and drain your team’s ticket lol but its stupid either way if the CAS is out of your weapon range, you just cannot do anything useful.
If CAS is out of your range, then they’re out of range to take out your teammates.
Bullshit, a4e is perfectly capable of dodging manpads and jinking guns, walleyes work very well against moving targets and they go unnoticed 90% of times, 100% if we exclude spaas
Hence the question why SPAA is overpowered? they obviously ain’t when every br has CAS that out-range SPAAs weapon range.
It isnt, alot of spaas are underperfoming, every stinger and mistral carrier is massively underperfoming, same for most saclos missiles as gaijing butchered the guidance
They are actually ground battles, the planes and helicopters are a complement to the gameplay and the SPAA only do their one job.
Tbh aircraft have bihger impact than everything else ehich imp is p3rfectly fine, spaa just need to be good again
Some CAS mains say: “I missed the time when everybody raced to jump into a plane”
That’s what you think ground battles should be?? I feel like wanna slap his face lol
You need to be within SPAA range for them to track moving targets. If you launch too far, then they’re just a fancy JDAM.
Because outside of rank 3- and 8, SPAA has a massive edge whilst being a fraction of the cost to spawn.
Yup. The number of times I’ve watched an “IRCCM” missile not reject a flare, or refuse to lock a helicopter at 3.2 km are countless at this point.
Then there’s the whole gimped SACLOS BS where all you have to do is a lazy barrel roll and you’re virtually untouchable by most of the higher end AD systems 🙄
Ironic you only ever hear CAS guys saying this, and yet the forums are full of people complaining about planes and never pilots crying about SPAA…… so very odd.
There is, the current pantsir and before the strela got moved up lol
Personal experience vs personal experience is kinda pointless, but there is typically a lot of CAS when I play 8.7-9.3. Albiet, a lot of them are ATGM helicopters, but that only furthers my point considering how good the Sgt York is at dealing with them, and how utterly useless Gepards (and weaker SPAAs) can be if the helicopter pilot is remotely skilled.
Outside of those, however, SAAB-105s and Alpha Jets are not uncommon, along with various weaker planes.
This means it can actually hit manuevering targets, something you’d be acutely aware of if you’d actually played a Gepard or Shilka. Even slight course corrections, if made frequently enough, will completely throw off the targetting solution and cause every shot to miss, even at ranges as low as a kilometer.
Since the Sgt York just needs to get close enough (Not to mention the tracerless shots mean aware CAS can’t see the shots incoming to jink them), planes can’t just trivialize them with basic awareness and manuevers. This means it can actually counter CAS, not just CAS pilots who are dumb enough to fly in straight lines and just hope that no SPAA exists.
Frankly, I don’t think you’re qualified to have this argument, since of all the SPAAs you’ve mentioned, you’ve only ever played the Sgt York, and you only managed a 0.4 KD against aircraft with it. Same with the M163 and Chapparal. If SPAAs at this tier are indeed so overpowered, how come you can’t make them work?
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn
All SPAA at this BR can be defeated by just playing smarter. Acting like these SPAA are OP because they are one of the FEW SPAA in game that can be highly competitive at their own BR is a crazy opinion.