Yeah, its certainly a balancing act.
I think the ADATS is a prime example of what happens to an SPAA that is just slightly too good for the bracket below
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Mim-72s are easy to flare, but Fim-92 seeker over performs massively which makes flaring it, even with your engine OFF (not even 0% throttle, I mean flat out off) near impossible.
All in game Stinger models have IRCCM, due to having a combination IR/UV seeker head, which allows it to fairly easily reject flares from most aspects. I’ve yet to do the testing to find the best way to flare them, but it’s kind of immaterial, due to a point I’ll get to later.
Turning your engine off does relatively little to reduce the heat it’s generating in the short term, feel free to watch the temps on the left side of the screen. A seeker that’s already gotten a lock is not going to be shaken by the target shedding a little bit of heat when the engine is still several hundred degrees hotter than the air around it.
And you don’t need to flare a stinger, because it’s agility is so bad that even fully laden attack jets can effortlessly outpull it. Just roll and pull at the same time, and watch the missile fail to adjust and miss every single time.
Also, saying the Stinger’s seeker overperforms massively is hilarious when, like all other IR seekers in game, it has a massively reduced range against helicopters. You’ll be lucky to lock them more than 3.5km out, and on snowy maps it can be as low as 2 km.
If everyone does have flares at the BR, A10 won’t have to go up for it’s 9L and su25 for the 60m xD
Common sense altered by too many PTW. Majority is flareless in 8.7-9.7
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For manpad they have a combination of 9m and r73 seeker, fov one needs RANGE to counter (reduced reaction time/ probability of untracking) and 9m one needs pulls with path changes + continuous flares - Only achievable by dumping with a10 or su25, theoretically by 60 cm ones but they won’t last long, and would lost the flares for a2a msls.
Preflare has a similar logic, dump thirty flares for 15 secs in view xD what a trade
Yes. And strela turns his launcher…
For the poor crafts of 8.7-10.7… The speed bleeders and bricks… They need help xD
Spaa isn’t a tank.
No one forces you to play ground forces if you want to fly.
ok, cool 👍🏻
No one forces you to play aircraft if you want to play ground forces.
That’s not my argument at all
That’s the best response you have?
Edit: Someone else already posted your stats. Please read my earlier posts because they are no longer a theory, you have a skill issue with CAS.
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Interesting, like I said I don’t know for sure so I’m happy to be wrong. That was just my understanding of it.
Only vehicles I really struggle with are M247, PGZ, and Ozelot. If they’re being played well you have zero chance of finding them before getting shot down. Most helicopters in the area don’t have thermals or don’t have flares and tracerless proxy rounds will just delete you before you even know what’s happening. Helicopters in the BR have had CCIP removed from their toolkit or have been moved up in BR to the point where only competent players can do well in them, but anyone who has at least bound the correct keys to use their SPAA can shoot down most helicopters without even trying. Just to clarify, I’m talking specifically about people who are playing these specific vehicles well, meaning they turn off their radar when they don’t need it, leave spawn and use hard cover, and don’t lock you until they know you’re in range. If they don’t broadcast their position like a newbie, you are completely screwed and there’s not really any counterplay.
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Ignore the turning off thrust throwing my missile directly in to the trash can
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I don’t think 9.3-10.3 SPAA is OP, I think it’s exactly how powerful AA should be everywhere.
People have gotten too comfortable with AA being weak or outright useless across most of the BR spectrum.
God forbid at least one BR area has AA actually be capable of offering some genuine deterrence.
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Keep it appropriate bud
9.3 SPAA should be at least as expensive as CAS if it’s going to have such a large advantage.
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I disagree with the notion that these AA have a large advantage.
I think they are simply lessening the large advantage that CAS itself is used to enjoying everywhere else in the BR spectrum.
Maybe CAS players at this BR are just struggling to adapt to an environment where they can’t simply fly in straight lines and space bar half the enemy team with ease.
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SPAA was already braindead with the only skill needed being a basic understanding of lead and drop (something every CAS player needs anyways), but now SPAA doesn’t even need that.
Edit: I shouldn’t use abbreviations on 4 hours of sleep
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As if CAS simply pointing the nose in a tanks general direction and pressing space bar requires a PhD.
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