SPAA at 9.3-10.3 is hilariously OP and i see no one talking about it

[Aegis270]

@Pangolin_Fan

M247 is at a BR where it faces basically no CAS, and the little it does face has guided weapons. It’s actual SPAA capabilities are pretty on-par with Gepard and ZSU, the only difference is it has quite literally 0 anti-tank capabilities.

Pretty much every single part of this is wrong.

The M247 is 9.0, AKA right below the 9.3 bracket in the OP. It fights plenty of vehicles with and without guided weaponry.

It’s SPAA capability are far beyond the Gepard and Shilka (and arguably beyond early missile based SPAAs too) due to tracerless proxy rounds. It’s able to easily and consisently engage even manuevering aircraft, something that’s entirely beyond the Gepard (and analogues), let alone the Shilka.

The only part you got right is the lack of AT weaponry.

[AK_Awful_Waffle-psn]

@Pangolin_Fan

Lead indicator, aim assist, what’s the difference? both a crutch for bad players.

lol, because airplanes don’t have F&F munitions, multi spectral targeting, gyro stabilized targeting pods, gyro gunsights and CCRP/CCIP 🤣

If a lead computing gunsight is too much of a crutch, CAS has a lot of toys that need to go back into the toy box.

[Zannafrancy12]

M247 on par with gepard? Lmao, m247 is a freaking no flight zone enforce by 40mm, its such a strong aa. And tbh theres alot of cas in my matches with it

[AK_Awful_Waffle-psn]

@Aegis270

The only part you got right is the lack of AT weaponry.

Even at that, I kill a surprising number of tanks with the 247. Just can’t kill them from the front.

[Aegis270]

I mean, you can do it, I just wouldn’t call it consisent. About on par with the Shilka, come to think of it.

[Zannafrancy12]

It can kill tams and leopsrd frontslly if youre lucky

[Zannafrancy12]

Absolutely a good comparison

[Pangolin_Fan]

2 kills at most and if you’re lucky. If the SPAA player isn’t braindead, and actually moves or stays behind cover until a plane is within range, then Walleyes are useless.

The only reason Walleyes get kills is bc most SPAA mains suck.

@Aegis270

It fights plenty of vehicles with and without guided weaponry.

Where’s this “plenty of vehicles”? I’m seeing 2-3 enemy planes a game at 9.0.

@Aegis270

It’s SPAA capability are far beyond the Gepard and Shilka (and arguably beyond early missile based SPAAs too) due to tracerless proxy rounds.

All this means is it’s effective range is a lil further, not to mention its anti-tank capability is non-existent which is a massive downside.

@AK_Awful_Waffle

lol, because airplanes don’t have F&F munitions, multi spectral targeting, gyro stabilized targeting pods, gyro gunsights and CCRP/CCIP

Rank 1-4 planes have FnF missiles and CCIP? why’d no1 tell me?

[БЕИ]

@Pangolin_Fan

Got that reversed. The issue is noob SPAA players who sit exactly where they spawned whole game, shoot at enemies outside they’re range, miss every shot, then complain that CAS is OP.

Unfortunately there is no other ways to play it, either you let them know you exist to bait them into flying into your weapon effective range, or you sit still for the entire match with no action, or drive around and becoming a free meal for enemy mbts to become a cannon fodder and drain your team’s ticket lol but its stupid either way if the CAS is out of your weapon range, you just cannot do anything useful.

[Pangolin_Fan]

If CAS is out of your range, then they’re out of range to take out your teammates.

[Zannafrancy12]

@Pangolin_Fan

2 kills at most and if you’re lucky. If the SPAA player isn’t braindead, and actually moves or stays behind cover until a plane is within range, then Walleyes are useless.

The only reason Walleyes get kills is bc most SPAA mains suck.

Bullshit, a4e is perfectly capable of dodging manpads and jinking guns, walleyes work very well against moving targets and they go unnoticed 90% of times, 100% if we exclude spaas

[БЕИ]

@Pangolin_Fan

If CAS is out of your range, then they’re out of range to take out your teammates.

Hence the question why SPAA is overpowered? they obviously ain’t when every br has CAS that out-range SPAAs weapon range.

[Zannafrancy12]

@БЕИ

overpowered

It isnt, alot of spaas are underperfoming, every stinger and mistral carrier is massively underperfoming, same for most saclos missiles as gaijing butchered the guidance

[DanyLopez]

They are actually ground battles, the planes and helicopters are a complement to the gameplay and the SPAA only do their one job.

[Zannafrancy12]

Tbh aircraft have bihger impact than everything else ehich imp is p3rfectly fine, spaa just need to be good again

[БЕИ]

@DanyLopez

They are actually ground battles, the planes and helicopters are a complement to the gameplay and the SPAA only do their one job.

Some CAS mains say: “I missed the time when everybody raced to jump into a plane”

That’s what you think ground battles should be?? I feel like wanna slap his face lol

[Pangolin_Fan]

@Zannafrancy12

walleyes work very well against moving targets

You need to be within SPAA range for them to track moving targets. If you launch too far, then they’re just a fancy JDAM.

@БЕИ

Hence the question why SPAA is overpowered? they obviously ain’t when every br has CAS that out-range SPAAs weapon range.

Because outside of rank 3- and 8, SPAA has a massive edge whilst being a fraction of the cost to spawn.

[AK_Awful_Waffle-psn]

Yup. The number of times I’ve watched an “IRCCM” missile not reject a flare, or refuse to lock a helicopter at 3.2 km are countless at this point.

Then there’s the whole gimped SACLOS BS where all you have to do is a lazy barrel roll and you’re virtually untouchable by most of the higher end AD systems 🙄

[AK_Awful_Waffle-psn]

@Pangolin_Fan

SPAA has a massive edge whilst being a fraction of the cost to spawn.

Ironic you only ever hear CAS guys saying this, and yet the forums are full of people complaining about planes and never pilots crying about SPAA…… so very odd.

[БЕИ]

@AK_Awful_Waffle

Ironic you only ever hear CAS guys saying this, and yet the forums are full of people complaining about planes and never pilots crying about SPAA…… so very odd.

There is, the current pantsir and before the strela got moved up lol