SPAA at 9.3-10.3 is hilariously OP and i see no one talking about it

The fundemental fact though is that ARB has been designed to be bad for strike aircraft, many are nearly unplayable within that gamemode and you can forget trying some form of proper “CAS” Gameplay within ARB.

The Only gamemode that is okay is ASB but that has major limitations and hurdles too.

And thats without even mentioning Helis that basically have no where else.

The idea that “planes should just play ARB” fails to grasp the idea that ARB is not a suitable gamemode for all aircraft and many are forced to play GRB/GSB.

The best CAS gameplay i’ve ever had in War Thunder came from a GSB match and not an ARB or ASB match.

Also. Combined arms is a core part of IRL and is a core part of War Thunder, always has been and always will be. If you want a pure tank game. there is always WoT

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I ain’t reading your essay about cope.

Then War Thunder should make a Combined Arms mode, and give us Ground battles as Ground only. Oh wait, Gaijin won’t because everyone here knows that Ground battles will be popular to the point no one will play Combined Arms.

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Im not playing for cas but as a cas hunter. either way the aircraft we are all in seeing 1970s and newer SPAA is stupid

Missile SPAA should be available at BR 2.0

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honestly things like the tracked rapier would suck just as bad at 1.0 as at 9.7

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Honestly id be ok with giving spaa in ww2 brackets arcade aim lead. Maybe CAS there would finally be reigned in.

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Perfectly fine for me. Please continue to underperform massively in some of the strongest cas planes at the br and cry about op spaa so i can continue playing literally untouchable cas planes yeeting 5 or more tanks per sortie at 8.7. would suck for cas players if they went up to a more blanaced br where they see more and stronger capable spaa

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Not a bad idea, even if it wasnt an exact lead marker but rather a ring around the target that gave you how much you need to lead your shots even if you have to handle everything else. That way radar guided SPAAGs still have meaning

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The only reason to play Russia is for Pantsir: the ultimate CAS hunter

ngl i think that would only make russian SPAA more obnoxiously OP compared to everyone else’s stuff across the entire game as the BTRs and m53s are all insane already

Its “Ground” battles, not “Tank” battles. Ground Battles include aircraft and helis. Deal with it.

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Just try to queue GRB without a tank in your lineup and tell me how it goes.
It’s obvious who’s that mode is.

I’m fine with this game having a combined arms mode if there’s an escape from that for all parties.

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Ground battles take place on teh ground. As long as you stick to the airfield your argument is valid. by your definition people should be allowed to spawn tanks and SPAA in air battles since they are not called plane battles.

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new discovery, you need a ground vehicle to play ground battles. Arcade also supplies you with Aircraft and Helis, so I mean clearly they have a place.

that sounds cool asf. i’d be down for SPAA in ARB or ASB

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“Ground” indicates the location of the objectives, 95% of matches are won or lost based upon cap points being held and not necessarily from kills like they are in Air. Yes a well played CAS can change the tide of a battle, but if everyone is in air, then I usually find the side with air loses more than they win. I did once “win” a GSB match before by playing the Typhoon and basically carried my team to victory. Though the enemy team only spawned a single SU-34 mid-game to challenge me, so it was basically shooting fish in a barrel and we only won because half the enemy team rage quit.

And quite frankly. (at least for those that play Air Sim) we do have SPAAGs, they are the bane of anyone trying to play a mud mover and have been for the last 2 years. They are obscenely OP with how they model them. Player controlled SPAAG/SAMs would probably be less of a threat in ASB than they AI controlled ones are.

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Truly combined aspect would ask you to equip all different types of vehicles to, you know, preserve the combined nature of the mode.

The fact you can have a full game of GRB without any Air spawning tells me the combined aspect was just an afterthought.

Then why Air had objectives on the ground as well lol ?

Try holding the majority of caps without killing your enemies. It’s obvious kills are the most important thing in GRB.