What do you mean by “radar fire control”?
Yes. The Iowa class did not see very much service in WWII due to their late introduction. Most of their combat was carrier escort and shore bombardment.
The North Carolina class and South Dakota class saw the most service of US battleships in WWII. North Carolina, like I mentioned before had 15 battle stars, but only served in the Navy for a measly 6 years. Meanwhile, New Jersey achieved her 19 battle stars over the course of 21 years cumulated service.
Basically, she was the first battleship to incorporate radar into her main gun director suite and use that to acquire a firing solution on the target. While radar was previously used to detect targets and adjust fire, this was the first incorporated system in a surface combat standpoint.
Edit: Actually, I am wrong. It seems like while Texas was fitted CXAM radar very early on but actually was not incorporated with the fire control system until 1941. It appears the USS California was the first.
What I misremembered this information from, is that USS Texas was the first US warship to conduct radar directed gunnery not the first to receive the capability.
But anyway, getting way off track here. Was just responding to the fella that thought USS Iowa was the first to receive this technology, when she was actually pretty late to the party. Her fire control was very advanced for 1944 though.
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You sure?
From what I can find the Mk3 naval fire control radar were fitted to USS Texas fitted late 1941 (Source)
USS Carolina appears to have gotten them in 1942
So both of which would be after May 1941 when HMS Prince of Wales fought Bismark during the battle of the Denmark Straight where it used its fire control radar to engage Bismark, and it provided ranging and bearing if im not mistaken.
So unless it provided the information notably differently to British warships such as the King-George-V class. Then they might not even be the first to have used the radar in combat, let alone fitted radar FCS
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Should be noted that japanese radar tech generally lagged behind other powers; Even their best radar was considerably worse than what was fielded by the US.
Fusou and Yamashiro, with their lack of radar (or at the very least; very poor radar), wandered into a kill box set up by the americans. Both ships were blown out of the water.
While the A140s had radar, it wasn’t linked to fire control - Which would hamper target acquisition.
How much this would hamper target acquisition is a different story as Yamato hit USS White Plains at 30km.
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A series of photos of what is allegedly USS White Plains. The shell splashes are definitely big enough to fit the 46cm profile
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Hmm… I found one report of issues of rounds being ranged correctly but the bearing not being provided correctly during that battle.
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Yeah, basically the radar was working but they had not completed its integration with the fire solution computer in the fire control room. It basically just provided the same estimates an optical fire director would, with just more accurate information from a radar.
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Pretty confident that Prince of Wales didnt get a modernisation in 1942.
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@Morvran I believe @TheRealSteve is to a degree referencing integrated fire control and primarily RPC which was something that was only introduced on Vanguard and planned to be installed on the KGV’s before the prominent actions of Germany forced them to be rushed into service with RPC planned for later.
Whilst I’d contend Vanguard until the Korean war had a better radar suite and fire control system, paired with more accurate guns (until the reactivation modernisations). The advantage of RPC is one unique to the US.
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After changing status from battleship to submarine in 1941, Prince of Wales did not undergo modernisation like other King George V-class ships.
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That’s messed up but that’s a funny way to say it.
She was modernised into artificial reef.
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Lol. I mean modernization of the Type 284 fire control radar, not Prince of Wales. It was not fully completed and production ready until 1942. Sorry, confusion with other ships.
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So who didnt expect this? ^
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Same issues as the Kronshtadts: great guns, hull made of glass.
18.4 second reload is still pretty nuts though lol.
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So Russia dominates top tier ground, air (behind rafale but still very meta), AND naval? Why am I not suprised.
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staying with 6.7 because of this, they also spoiled r6 mobile with a Russian vehicle, missile fights were fun then they put in the Lun Class and it’s a total joke, even gave it the most effective ECM type along with missiles that are harder to counter, lel
And changed the scouts on Russian ships? but France still has those really slow awkward to land ones on most ships, never mind that the Italian scout crashes itself in ways no other does, and the Walrus goes way to high.
Also the Tu-2 gets all it’s bombs from a single t2 mod, also lel
and less than 1% of US pilots were black…
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How to kill this annoying thing? I’ve just had a battle against a squad of 2 Soyuzes, one had 9 kills, another 4 without deaths, our entire team managed to get only 3 kills, because of these 2 enemies.
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Turret 3 is allegedly the weakpoint - I haven’t labbed it since I don’t have a friend to test it.
Yamatos can straight up nuke it through the bow at 15km but it’s a gamble and if you’re in a Yamato class you’re probably dead anyway since Gaijin has done her so dirty.
Do not believe the in-game X-ray of the magazines; the visual model is borrowed from the Kronshtadt and the hitbox is what you’d actually expect for 40.6cms, it is - however - just like Iowa in that you have to get through three different armored decks to actually hit ammunition if you’re trying to plunging fire it.
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Pretty easy answer: You dont. Well maybe if you have two top tier allies helping you but chances are you still go down as well. Do yourself a favor, chose the easy way out and just dont play the trash that is top tier naval rb.
Really, there is no point trying to win matches, or trying to challenge a battleship at the same br, with multiple times your effectiveness, same multipliers and same repaircost. Surely something will be done to sort of balance the situation at 8.7 soon, right?? RIGHT??? Like soft nerf stats that gaijin uses to balance vehicles…like reload…or repaircosts…any moment now…
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Bro are you stupid? Like it’s actually soooo easy!!! All you have to do it’s get 25 He 111 all armed with Fritz Xs and do synchronized attack!! Like bro it’s not that hard!!!
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