Depends on the range since there’s quite a few posts of people whining they can’t ‘kill a Scharnhorst’ with a Soyuz.
If they’re struggling against a Scharnhorst, Bismarck at the same ranges is gonna have a field day.
Thats just an insane skill issue on those peoples parts ngl the Soyuz is so insanely broken lmao.
Also as i said before Bismarck is technically easier to kill than Gneisenau and Scharnhorst because of funny Barbette armour differences
For your entertainment
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People who play Germany have an insane skill issue. They’re super handheld.
Bismarck is really the only “fair” ship at those higher tiers.
America with the exception of the Omahas and dreadnoughts:
Germany is consistently strong until you get to Scharnhorst and Bismarck, then they’re ridiculous in specific scenarios.
The only ships that actually suck out of the german bluewater tree is the Elbing… Because it’s the Elbing and the K2 (Because it doesn’t belong in Bluewater and before leviathans was actually FUN to play)
Oh shall we also bring up the removed costal ships too for Germany? The ones whom to this day can shrug of any kind of shell from a destroyer / light cruiser with ease.
They’re still way too tanky.
Shall I bring up the SKR-7’s RBUs?
The fact many pt boats - not just German - can survive a 46cm APCBC that would realistically erase it in real life?
We can argue all day.
What of them? RBUs are good in brawls, but the SKRs are very squishy now.
I still find it funny that Sovetsky’s ammo rooms are literally just a copy and paste of Kronshtadt’s ammo rooms.
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Visually, not physically. Likely a placeholder visual model that has yet to be fixed.
Doesn’t mean SKRs can’t be annoyingly tanky.
Scharnhorst class will usually pop within 1 to 3 salvos to turrets 1 and 2.
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The current state of naval top tier because of
one overpowered fake ship and
one real completly bugged ship
–and too small maps
1v1 lmao its all bots 😭
(killed IT dont worry)
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So its ammo is being pushed back further away from the turrets. How is it able to reload so fast with its ammo in another country?
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Both of these statements are wildly incorrect.
SKRs are no longer tanky, they’re quite easy to kill even by some pt boats.
Schanhorst is literally still a monster though :)
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So is the South Dakota overpowered then? It’s not a “fake ship” as you claim, (despite the hull being built of the SovetSky), and it had nearly the same KDr.
Better yet, do you understand how naval KDr works?
Shoots upper hull instead of barbettes
‘b-but the statement is incorrect!’
No, no it isn’t. You’re just aiming poorly.
SKRs, like all PT boats, can randomly decide to devour battleship size shells. The statement I made is once again correct. ‘can’ be.
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I have no idea why you constantly trying to argue with me when I see it firsthand almost every match when I actually decide to tolerate 7.3.
There’s only two ships I fear in a Kongou class and none of them are German.
SoDak and Tosa.
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Me: shoots where your supposed to
You: “t-that’s n-not the right spot! Lower!”
Meanwhile: vid I sent shows hits lower as well, several mag hits but not detonating
Do you even know what a turret barbette is?
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Using the North Dakota in test sail as an example. IJN Kirishima.
First salvo randomly decided to head towards front boilers.
Second salvo aimed at the barbette.
‘but that’s not the Scharnhorst!’
Same exact thing happens with consistency against both Scharnhorst and Gneisenau.
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Granted, this is with a Tosa.
First few shots were poorly aimed on my part.
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No, your aim just sucks, I just had a match where my Scharnhorst was one-shot twice in a row by a Nagato player at 15-12kms, if you’re struggling to do this with a ship that has close to 100mm more penetration than that’s simply a skill issue.
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20% of the hull was, thats a very different thing from an entire ship being done
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21,2% of the ship was. Whatever that means or how thats measured. Not a lot considering up to there it took 3 years. And 100% would be launch. Before sea trials, improvements, stuff not working as planned and having to be changed, maybe other systems developed and implemented.
Could have been should have been would have been…Probably could have been finished after cancelling the other ships and focussing on one or two of them, if it wasnt for the war. How the Armor, propulsion, machinery, engines would have looked then and which year it would have been finished no one will ever know…
Most likely would have been way too late to make any sort of difference and at a time where everyone but the us had already given up on theirs and scrapped them bc, yk evil long range anti ship misslis
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