Southeast Asian (ASEAN) Machinery Of War Discussion Thread

I hope it gets its FFAR rockets, so at least it wouldn’t be just another copy-paste

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Definitely nice to see Japan, Thailand and Indonesia respectively would make for fun additions

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North Vietnamese ZIL-151 trucks equipped with quad-mounted M20 recoilless rifles
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Interestingly, this was a parade that took place on January 1st, 1955, meaning that the rifles in question were likely taken from the French during the First Indochina War.

Edit: It just occurred to me that the North Vietnamese also used stocks of Chinese copied M20s known as the Type 52, so I may be wrong about the whole “captured from the French” theory.

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Imma be honest the possibility of getting a Indonesian vehicle and the implications it would have are almost equally or more exciting than the thai-subtree for me.

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it definitely has a pretty big potential both currently and in the future

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I bear news, i’d say its pretty bad one unfortunately

J-10 is apparently a done deal, 42 aircrafts, scheduled to arrive in 2026

https://www.intelligenceonline.com/international-dealmaking/2025/09/02/chinese-fighter-jets-ready-to-land-in-jakarta,110516731-art
(02/09/2025)

Indonesia: Chinese fighter jets ready to land in Jakarta

Although not officially confirmed by the Indonesian and Chinese authorities, the contract for the delivery of J-10 fighter jets to Jakarta is gradually being put in place. Meanwhile, Paris and Ankara are also hoping to finalise their own fighter jet sales to Indonesia.

Indonesian President Prabowo Subianto is expected to attend the massive military parade in Beijing on 3 September, bringing with him a significant gift: the resumption of the contract for the purchase of Chinese fighter jets. Delivery of the first Chinese-made J-10 aircraft is now set for 2026. Several sources close to the Indonesian Air Force have confirmed this to Intelligence Online.

The contract is for 42 aircraft, built by Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAIG). Pilots from the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) will train their Indonesian counterparts, as Indonesian Defence Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin confirmed in early June. Ultimately, these aircraft will fly alongside the first 42 French Rafale aircraft Indonesia bought in 2022.

Franco-Turkish competition

Signed several months ago, the J-10 contract was temporarily lost in bilateral limbo, as financing for the acquisition proved difficult to finalise. While this aspect of the agreement remains unclear, it will be financed through Chinese payment facilities.

However, according to our sources, the Indonesian budget for the J-10 contract is not coming from the same pot as the money set aside for a possible new order of French Rafale fighter jets, for which a non-binding agreement was signed by President Emmanuel Macron at the end of May in Jakarta.

This is however deceptive good news for Dassault Aviation, as the budget set aside for the potential purchase of French fighters could yet be seriously depleted. Jakarta is considering using this money to finance the purchase of 48 Turkish Kaan fighter jets. Indonesia signed an agreement to this effect on 26 July, also providing for the planes to be assembled in Java. But here too, the project is currently non-binding.

Same source who broke the original news of the Indonesian Bastille day disagreement w/ France (which was confirmed to be true later from Indonesian sources). Money used is not the same budget as the Rafale, so both can be pursued further.

I have heard rumors of the F-16V upgrade by Turkey (Ozgur) is being blocked by the US. And apparently this was the consequence of it. Certainly not ideal. I pray that its at least J-10CE and not used J-10As

Also worth noting that the president said he cancelled the trip to China just a couple of days ago due to current events, but as of writing is currently flying there anyway most likely due to this deal

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