What a genius.
How the hell did forced conscription from the colonised Korea become a perfect link for being sub-tree…?
Yes, it might be a historical fact
But also, it will be serious political discussion as I claimed in other topic.
Congrats, you lit the flame on the fireworks.
And proved why we can’t have it as our option
In your doomed theory, post-war Germany is the direct successor of the Third Reich because the Bundeswehr adopted the Wehrmacht/Luftwaffe remnants.
:/
Sorry, I don’t know much about Koreans, but this feels like a blatant lie to me.
If you respect SK, I think you wouldn’t use forced conscription as evidence to support your short-sighted theory.
Yes, there will be a vocal minority that will get pissed off.
(Unsure that reaaally be a minority though)
And that is why WE CANNOT GET SK AS A SUB-TREE OF JAPAN.
They will force their military contractor not to give a license to Gaijin by political threats.
It is their commercial risks.
No matter
whether you want it or not
I want it or not
Gaijin want it or not
We won’t gonna be getting licences from them.
And no SK subtree to JP will happen.
Why are you continuing to push the most controversial option when there are less dangerous ones that exist?
Exactly this. Especially now that the Indonesian Mi-35P was added, which opens up a ton of opportunities I really don’t know why “Korea to Japan” of all things is brought up again instead…
Ah, now we are at THAT level, we have to dig all the way to the B.C. to just make a sub-tree.
Cultural exchange and trade means absolutely nothing cause countries can do that even with the potential enemy. Also military cooperation is still nonexistent.
That also really means nothing cause there’s really not much options when when it comes to new poor independent country.
And even then, korea barely used any heavy IJA equipment cause IJA destroyed most of them. And that influence vanished after the US came.
How? Tell me. I think Asean countries can provide more options, especially with cold war equipment.
More like cause Korea has absolutely nothing to do with Japan??? Are you making some ‘stupid’ conspiracy?
No military connection.
No reason to add cause JPN now have Thailand and Indonesia.
And people’s are still talking about JPN…
Downplaying my points won’t help your counter reasoning. Also to make myself clear on something I never intended to be disrespectful. What Japan did during ww2 was wrong but I shouldn’t even need to say the obvious. You would think that overcoming grievances would involve both acknowledging history, but also acceptance. Keeping on repeating “you can’t say facts” or analogies to something much worse fuels the flames more. This was also not meant to be about that, but why I think they have enough connections to justify the addition.
Indonesia would be good
It’s copypaste. That’s all. I think I’ve made my case clear and don’t want to reply any further.
Btw from what I was able to find, what gaijin has said is they have no plans for it. This statement is coming through the Korean forums 6 years ago from a moderator reply, not a dev.
The point is that ww2 history is extremely controversial, especially so in East Asia. But just because South Korea was under occupation does not constitute to it having reasonable and tangible enough evidence for it to go to Japan.
If that was the case then France should just be grouped with Germany since they were under occupation back then.
To be blunt, one side doesn’t acknowledge their history, or admit their issues of the past. That is why there is so much resentment for the whole idea in the first place. And we cant talk about modern times without the implications of ww2 history, even if “its all in past” doesnt mean its forgotten entirely.
So no I dont support SK going to JP under any circumstances. Thailand can help with JP, Indonesia can provide reinforcements. There is no reason for SK to be added to the pile.
If you think this is to be the case then you should broaden your perspective on things and research more.
Saying its just copy paste when we have tons of unique ground vehicles to add is just nonsense. Just because Gaijin chose to implement only the C&P doesnt mean TH & ID only has C&P.
This is already giving me Israel flashbacks with the copy paste. Also really not a fan of filling the game with ATGM jeeps but I know that’s a personal preference. Someone else made a suggestion for a United Korea tech tree that was passed on to the developers and I must say, I think that would be infinitely more interesting to play, even if the copy-paste problem persists.
No I think you are mistaken. I never said that. I think koreas should go to CN & JP because it would be a better option considering similarities, better options & everything.
Also agree with what the person above me said. I would not be interested in grinding an Israel 2.0. Korea interests me, but there’s no need for another copy paste tree.
I don’t share the same opinion as you. Personally, if Korea is added, I’d like to play with the K2, because if they don’t do that, the game will eventually become stagnant. But I have a feeling that the Korean tech tree will be quite interesting. Let’s wait and see — War Thunder will probably make an announcement about it soon. Since there are already many copy vehicles in the game, I don’t really care about that. I just hope that after Korea, the Turkish tech tree will be added.
I’m not saying I don’t want the K2 by any means. I feel similarly about Turkey as well. Obviously I want their unique vehicles in the game, but I don’t believe they deserve an entire tech tree of their own.
If it’s like you said, let’s remove everyone from the game except Germany, the USA, french,the Soviet Union, Britain, Italy and Japan (lonly have their own vehicles). Korea and Turkey have more of their own vehicles than Israel.Forget everything else — Israel only has the Merkavas thanks to the United States.
That’s not my point at all. I’m not here to argue with you, just to debate.
My reasoning is thus: I don’t mind grinding through a vehicle a couple times in separate trees, but I don’t want to do it more than 2 or 3 times. If I want to play the T34-85, I can play Russia, China or Sweden. I don’t want another tech tree to come along down the line where I now have to research the T34-85, along with a load of other vehicles sharing this problem yet again. It’s getting excessive and it’s reducing my interest in grinding through new trees just to get to those totally unique vehicles in the highest ranks.
All I’m saying is that if Korea were to be introduced as suggested here, players who feel the way I do, and I know I’m not alone on this, for us it would be a massive detractor, and a bit of a death sentence for that content amongst this group of players. There are definitely more agreeable methods to implement this highly sought after content.
The easy solution is just to folder these vehicles behind more unique options outside of their nation of origin (or main operator for pure export vehicles).
This way they are only mandatory in one nation, and optional everywhere else for players that specifically want them for that nation or for a lineup.
That’s true, but that still requires a healthy supply of unique vehicles to populate the ranks below VI and VII. Not sure how a Korean tech tree would be able to accomplish that.
This wasn’t specific to the Korean tree, but the game in general. Many existing trees could benefit a lot from this.
For Korea I believe the best solution is to make a combined Korean tree, where the unique designs from both South and North Korea are included, similar to how China or Germany are handled. I don’t think South Korea alone is enough.
I would like to see it in Japan tech tree. It could actually make it good. Just look at AIR there is not much. Thailand did not save it. Not to mention that Japanese vehicles are one trick pony. Fast - Fast autoloader - no armor. All of them. And thing is there is not much to add now in general.
