Sorry, but I cant understand why 800 rounds of German 20mm cannon round in Engines and Cockpit Wont bring a bomber down

[Doc_Holliday]

But yet…2 fifty calibur rounds from a bomber damages my whole plane.
Whats up here. whats going on with this?
Whats up with this? Is this air realistic battle or what?
As long as Ive been playing this game…and the ONLY game Ive ever played…
What do you have going on here? This is RIDICULOUS.
Bombers and the end of a match with the most Airkills…whats the motivation behind this?
Not even real,…which is, as an athlete who never liked video games in the first place…liked this game in the first place.
What is the real motivation behind this? Doesnt even fit with reality…like this game used to?
Is it money? I may as well go play “Call of Duty”,which is not what I wanted when started to play this game as a NOOB.
This isnt real anymore.

[Casino_Knight]

Bombers getting nerfed next patch.

[SdKfz173DW-live]

A real nerf or are they just gonna make them paper again?

[SandmanSix]

Apart from the buff, interceptors were made for a reason. .50 cals weren’t cutting it. In game they should just be nerfed because thinkings hard. Bombers should just be paper

[SdKfz173DW-live]

@SandmanSix

In game they should just be nerfed because thinkings hard

How dare you want me to aim for the gunner’s positions, cockpit and engines!!! I should be able to just shoot the bomber with 7.7s and have it burst in the flames and explode!!!

[SandmanSix]

100% the mentality of the game. Wouldn’t be surprised if we start giving tanks APHE 👀

[Dregbag]

maybe just give up and not spend the entire game chasing after a a bomber

[Coffee_is_GAS]

Probably the best way to deal with bombers is to ignore them, wait for them to crash on landing, or let other bombers shoot them down—that’s about it. Neither the MG151, the MK103, nor the MK108 are effective anymore.

[Cloudzy26160]

There are more refinements to the system on the dev server, including making fires far more dangerous.
Currently the issue is the lack of internal systems on bombers to be damaged/ destroyed/ burn to offset the structural strength increase, combined with fighters still using the paper damage models so they are at disproportionate risk with how long they need to stick on the bombers.

@SdKfz173DW-live

A real nerf or are they just gonna make them paper again?

It’s mostly based around adjusting fire damage, they are also adding the new DMs to single engine bombers

Spoiler

@Stona_WT

• Refinement of the damage model for bombers. The following changes are based on an analysis of the following military and engineering documents: BRL Memo Report 484, NACA RM L52H01a, NACA TN 4111 and Report 1308, AGARD-667, AFWAL-TR-85-2060, and MIL-H-5606.
• Fuel Tank Fires. The intensity of a fire increases over time: it is weak during the first few seconds, reaches full intensity within 40–60 seconds, and causes greater damage to the heated structure as the fire persists. Curves have been developed separately for each class of propulsion system (2, 3, 4, 6, or 8 engines; piston or jet). Basis: a thermal model derived from NACA TN 4111 and Report 1308.
• The probability of ignition from pure armor-piercing (AP) projectiles has been reduced. According to BRL Memo Report 484, AP projectiles lacking an incendiary component ignite fuel in 0–2% of cases.
• The probability of a fuel leak resulting from hits by 20 mm or larger-caliber projectiles has been increased.
• The probability of a fuel tank catching fire now depends on the extent of the damage it has sustained. As damage accumulates, punctures appear and fuel begins to leak, making each subsequent hit from an incendiary round increasingly likely to cause a fire.
• Engine Fires. A separate intensity-buildup curve has been added for engine fires. An engine fire develops more rapidly than a fuel-tank fire (due to the instantaneous ignition of oil on a hot manifold — AFWAL-TR-85-2060), but it remains localized. Its maximum intensity is lower than that of a fuel-tank fire.
• Vulnerability of the wing spar to fire. Thermal damage from a fire now correctly passes through the material of the wing spar. Previously, the armor-resistance calculation effectively blocked the fire, rendering the spar virtually invulnerable to it. A sustained fire in the wing is now capable of destroying the spar.
• Structural Strength of the Wing. Destruction of the wing skin will no longer automatically cause the spar to detach. According to NACA RM L52H01a, a chordwise cut through the skin and stringers is not critical, the spar caps continue to carry the load. The strength of the spars on bombers has been increased.
• Spread of the fire to the tail assembly. The fire from the rear section of the fuselage now spreads to the stabilizers, control surfaces, and the vertical fin.
• Damage model (DM) for bombers has been updated for: Ju 87 B-2, Ju 87 D-3, Ju 87 D-5, Ju 87 G-1, Ju 87 G-2, Ju 87 R-2, Ju 87 R-2 Libya, BTD-1 Destroyer, SBD-3 Dauntless, SB2C-1C Helldiver, SB2C-4 Helldiver, SB2U-2, SB2U-3, TBF-1C Avenger, OS2U-1 Kingfisher, OS2U-3 Kingfisher, B5N2, B6N1 Model 11, B6N2 Model 12, B6N2a Model 12Ko, B7A2 Ryusei, D3A1, D4Y1, D4Y2, D4Y3 Ko, Ki-32, B17A, B17B, S17BS, B3C, Avenger Mk.II, Chesapeake Mk I, V-156-F, XA-38, P-61A-11, P-61C-1

@Dregbag

maybe just give up and not spend the entire game chasing after a a bomber

Or think outside the box a little, repurposed the rocket pods on the Strikemaster for A2A duty:

Spoiler

Hit the last one right as the match ended, he would have hit the ground pretty soon otherwise

[Normandy_Corsair]

@SdKfz173DW-live

How dare you want me to aim for the gunner’s positions, cockpit and engines!!! I should be able to just shoot the bomber with 7.7s and have it burst in the flames and explode!!!

Nobody is asking for that tho, this is disingenious

@Dregbag

maybe just give up and not spend the entire game chasing after a a bomber

So do what instead? Especially when your plane can’t do ground strike?

@Coffee_is_GAS

Probably the best way to deal with bombers is to ignore them, wait for them to crash on landing, or let other bombers shoot them down—that’s about it.

Sounds VERY unhealthy for the game. Let’s nerf it and get back to a healthy state