Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2)

You are right about that, the F-16AJ is NOT a mix of multiple proposals, it’s actually entirely fictional and currently it does not represent the proposed aircraft
(Not that the AJ ever existed but that’s beside the point)

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I’m not gonna comment on the rest, since I already made my point clear and we derailed this thread more than enough, but this just won’t sit right with me.

The F-16J proposal was a basic F-16A of the time, this was denied.
The YF-16A was the aircraft shown to Japan, but also used for unrelated tests of various systems at the time.
The F-16AJ proposal was based on some of the things tested with the YF-16A to bring it closer to the F-15 and F-14 and hopefully make Japan pick it, it was still rejected.

The aircraft in game shares the same airframe with the F-16A, like the F-16J would have. It carries Spqrrows on the inner AAM pylons like the YF-16 tested at the time and like they were proposed for the F-16AJ. It also carries Mavericks, as advertised in the AJ brochure. The airframe is not the YF-16s, and with it not the AJs. The aircraft is missing TV guided bombs advertised in the brochure. The aircraft is missing two of the pylons in tbe brochure, along with the armament these would have carried. The aircraft also lacks a lot of armament that was not only carried by the YF-16, but also shown on pictures in the brochure.

As it stands it is a mix of the F-16J and F-16AJ, and if we consider camos it also has a camo found on promotional images of the later FS-X based on the SX-3, as well as an XF-2A and F-2A camouflage.

Not just that, but Gaijin themselves have stated it is a made up design, representing what they think Japans F-16 could have looked like had they accepted the F-16 into service.

It is absolutely a mix of multiple proposals. But I agree it’s better than nothing, I would have personally preferred an earlier XF-2B, or a Thai F-16, but this works. If only it was at least the actual AJ.

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Some interesting additions in the new vehicle statcard images:

A6M5(PRC) returns once again
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The unimplemented Vought O3U and Fairey 3f have the new statcard pictures, along w/ the other catapult floatplanes
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Alternate( separate ?) P-38G statcard image " metal " variation
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Romanian Pz.35(t) reappears once more
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As have the Tencent-server CN-techtree BT-5 nd Ha-Go
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The J35J statcard has been removed :(

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You’ve probably all seen the Yak-28b image by now, but there 's further evidence that these are rendered direct from the game rather than having someone create them:

Loire 130 image lacks textures apart from crew and bombs
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USSR Hampden is not fully viewable in the vignette, it may be the only vehicle in that position
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I’ll check through statcard flags next, see if there 's any new/unimplemented additions there too.

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Dunno, for me it looks like a Marder hull (Ger) and a T-90 (Rus).

Correct placement would be Tam for Ger (as it is) and the T-90 for Russia (unfortnately added to GB). This will kill off alot immersion and might water down tech trees alot.

In case Argentinia would ever become an own ingame nation, they should have the TAM. In case the same happens with India, they should have their T90 as well. As long as they’re not ingame, the tech should go the countries where the tech is originating from.

Should be like this for every vehicle. This whole subtree nonsense, which is spreading all kinds of vehicles wildly around, so they end up in highly questionable tech trees…well… thats nuts.

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So, agree with that. Ifv at least need for Britain.

Is that the moment when Bri’ish ask for KF-41 because Australia considered it and since Australia is Commonwealth that surely would be an option? ^^

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They’d get Ajax instead, just like Germany gets PUMA.

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So there aren’t any new national flags for the new-style statcards, and the unused ones from before haven’t been carried over apart from the Philippines and Ukraine.

I did get sidetracked and found the CIWS selection buttons have been carried over from WT Mobile though.
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So that 's interesting.

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Those were used on the Harpy in the 2077 event

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One would hope so once it enters service.

Would be funny if we got it, (especially if it was before Germany) but there are definetly better options. We arent that desperate on choices

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No one is asking for the KF-41 in the British tree.

People want British IFVs instead of 100 more MBTs.

And the KF-41 still doesn’t belong in the German tree.

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Of course it does. A German IFV sold and exported to Hungary totally belongs to German TT.

(Not to Italy)

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Right now it makes sense for Hungary to have it specifically since Germany already has the PUMA and, the KF41 in the Hungarian Sub-tree (which this update is focused on) is specific to Hungary. There are several options in the future for KF41/Lynx variants to make it into the German Tree.

On a side note, hopefully Germany’s PUMA will receive the Spike launcher in the near future because that will help balance things out.

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It’s German, and thus belongs in the German tree.

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A note, it was said a version of the Puma with spikes May come in the future, its the least concrete statement imaginable

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I would hope it does. If they added the KF41 with the Spike’s I don’t see why the German PUMA, Germany’s newest IFV in it’s service, cannot receive it’s MELLS/Spike launcher xD

Some tripe about the version in game isnt the version that uses MELLS, (ignoring the multiple upgrade packages we have as modifications on tanks) And I personally find the statement “in the future” to be incredibly nebulous, it can be anywhere from the next update to 3 years later (cough cough PSO cough cough)

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Yeah no kidding on that. They do take there time when adding stuff for Germany Ground.

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I agree. German tree should have exclusively German-built vehicles.

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