Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2)

Tbh my “sources” just came real quick theyre not exactly… reliable I suppose or conventional maybe but ill try and figure out spoilers to link them. Dont judge me it was a quick search and its 2 am 😭.
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Youd be suprised what kind of good information and sources you can find on Military Wiki and DCS Forums. Like I said not an expert of infosourcing so dont yall cruify me please ;p

Dcs forums are often a good starting point, as long as you actually fact check what is said after so, I don’t think anyone’s gonna judge you for that

Reading what you send, I think you might’ve misunderstood what I actually meant. I didn’t mean that the seeker should be able to look around further, I might have not made that clear enough, what I meant is that the missile takes way too long for its tvc to kick in in wt to have its listed 300 meter minimum engagement range

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Yeah but im trusting that one for now since its a book but it could also be overstating capabilities but I suppose it gives a general idea on the R-73s capabilities, honestly im more suprised I figured the “spoilers” out

I more then likely did im pretty tired but thats not a good excuse, but it probably wont go live like that its probably a test? I guess of a sort to try and fine tune the FM of the R-73 in a way that makes it more balanced which is unfortunate but at the same time understandable.

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Tbh I just started on this because I just find it hilarious how this even makes it to the players. Like yeah I get it, it’s to find bugs, but to manage to completely nuke a missiles function in an attempt to fix something is… well it’s gaijin as I said. I’ve grown used to it, the snail just needs a little extra time, he’s a little special y’know? But given enough time and reward candy they’ll usually deliver

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Then again it might come like that to live just like how the 9L was broken and didnt pull when it was added with the A10

if the r73 is better than aim 9m and L and the devs said the only equal is aim9x then why wont we get it why the russ bias again ?

You don’t want Pantsir, ADATS has better missiles within the range of missiles.

and if the attacking aircraft never needs to enter the missile’s range in the first place due to using standoff ordnance?

The Pantsir is still better off due to the cannons having a significantly higher rate of fire leading to a greater chance of interception (the Canadian, M113 based ADATS in the UK tree lacks a gun entirely), having TWS and an undetectable tracking radar meaning you will be notified of ordnance release and can rapidly swap between tracks.

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I guess next devblog in wednesday maybe strike aircraft toptier AV-8B Harrier II plus from Italian Navy or Leopard 2 PSO MBT for Germany or 2nd lightweight Multirole fighter aircraft F-16D Block 40 Barak from Israel

it literally isnt, it was nerfed last dev update…

r73 is the reason why 9x even exists, it scared americans.

r74m2 is on par with 9x, not r73

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Dev server just got extended so I wouldn’t be surprised if they changed it some more

Hopefully there’s still some last second goodies this patch, but I’m still really happy with what we already have

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At some point law comes in regarding so many aspects, not only export.
Where a company is based certainly matters.

They were more specific than that. They said it had the best IRCCM in the game at that point, and that it only has an equivalent in AIM-9X, IRIS-T, “and a few others” when referring to IRCCM capabilities.

Obviously it’s the only true thrust vectoring missile in the game right now, so that’s an advantage.

AIM-9L still has better energy and range.

It’s the best “dogfight missile”, not the best missile. There’s no denying that the Soviet/Russian tree is getting a big buff that probably puts them ahead overall right now. The dev server is still young, and we’ll find out what’s to come as things progress.

Let’s not forget that the R-60’s are absolutely miserable right now. So it was kinda necessary. I don’t necessarily agree with the whole irccm thing since I kinda just believe that if you do things right and flare properly you live, and if you don’t, skill issue. and that that should apply to every missile but ah well

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Speaking of irccm, how’s the 27ET doing. Did it get its own seeker yet?

It’s best short range IR missile though thats’s for sure, just having IRCCM makes it overall better than the AIM-9L

That combined with the R-27ER being the best radar missile is where the issue really lies, if they got rid of the R-27E line of missiles then the AIM-9M would probably be enough

why do people seemingly keep forgetting the F-16C’s flight performance is quite a bit better than the SMT’s? you have a gun too you know

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2S1 can’t replace Palmaria and M109L. If you try 2S1 on the dev-server you will see that gameplay wise it’s more of a light tank than a derp SPG. I don’t think devs can use such exuse to slower the addition of Italian 155 mm SPG.

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Oh yes how silly of me to forget the F-16 wins most engagements within 500m that totally makes up for the SMT winning most engagements outside 500m.

If you seriously think that a gun makes up for the R-73 and R-27ER then IDK what game you’re playing, most dogfights end up with someone getting 3rd partied anyway so sure in a 1v1 dogfight the F-16 has the advantage but in literally every other situation the SMT comes out on top

Maybe someday we will get leopard ATD