AMRAAM As are coming this year.
Which is good, otherwise we wouldn’t get ARHs next year.
Bruh, and in WT fly in Su-27 vs Arh rockets. But if he come in next patch vs F-15 with loft 7M he also be have 80+% winrate. Later ARH AAM, and what will you choose? Su -27 without R-77 but with 4 R-73 2 R-27ET + 4 ER/6 ER or MiG-29S with 6 R-77
I agree, I believe they will come with F-15 and Su-27 at the end of this year (and Gripen too) after all, gripen was made to counter Su-27 so…
Su-27 is 12.7 minimum from what I’ve been reading on its minimum weaponry.
That and F-15 won’t be getting the AMRAAMs.
I fully believe the Su-27 could be 12.0/12.3 if they limited its weaponry of just 6x R-27Rs and 4x R-60Ms if they decided to dump the R-27ERs and R-73s onto them that would be a whole different story that would honestly justify something like the F-15C with AIM-120As. But my question is where would it go in the Soviet tech tree? Would it finally break the MiG line or would they put it in the Sukhoi strike line? Honestly there needs to be a rework of a couple tech trees before we get aircraft like the F/A-18A/C or Su-27
Su-27 never have R-60M only R-73
For balancing reasons it should get the R-60M instead
He physically can’t take R-60m
Then either pull an F-16AJ and Yak-141 and fudge the numbers or we could limit it even further to have 2x R-27Ts and 4x R-27Rs
The next tree to get subtree should be Italy and according to BVV_d it will most likely be Hungary (hopefully with Romania).
F-15C is inferior to Su-27 in armament, which is why F-15C can come out sooner.
4x 9Ls and 4x Aim-7s.
Su-27 still has 4x or 6x R-27Rs and 4x or 6x R-73s depending on loadout choice.
Also what reworks are necessary? Every nation has 12.3 capable stuff outside France cause the Mirage 2000 5F is likely 12.7 with 6x MICA RFs, and 2x Magic 2 or 2x 530 depending on player choice.
Also no aircraft has a weapon attached to it that it cannot fire.
Yak-141 does not have fictional weapons. Nor does F-16.
No tech tree vehicle has artificially restricted weapons.
The F-15C can carry AIM-120s (A/B/C) and AIM-9Ms
The F-15A carries AIM-7s (P/F/M) and AIM-9Ms
(Israeli F-15A Baz with Python 3s and AIM-7s)
Your reply to me makes zero sense. 12.7 isn’t looking to be coming this year.
We’re getting F-15Cs with Aim-9s & Aim-7s only if you want F-15 to be in the game at all this year.
Depends where you arbitrarily limit armament. If you don’t allow the F-15C to run anything past Su-27 introduction sure, but the F-15C runs AIM-120s too which would make the AIM-54 introduction look over exaggerated in comparison.
I wouldn’t dwell too hard on the F-15A model as it most likely won’t ever be added due to it being impossible to balance with its lack of flares. We’d probably get a B model first, likely at or slightly above F-14B BR.
Su-27S Flanker B & Su-33 Flanker D, MiG-29S 9-13S Fulcrum-C & MiG-29M 9-15 Fulcrum-E start 2x R-73 (stock) only.
I guess F/A-18A 2 AIM-9H stock & AIM-9L researchable and 4 AIM-7M, F/A-18C early 2 AIM-9L stock & 6 AIM-9M researcable, and 4 or 6 AIM-7M & AIM-7P Sparrow but without AIM-120 AMRAAM
I guess F-15C pre-MSIP (USAF) fitted with AN/APG-63 (PSP) radar 2 AIM-9L (stock)/AIM-9M research and 4 AIM-7M, F-15C ‘Akef’ pre-MSIP (IAF) 2 AIM-9L (stock) & Python 3 research and 4 AIM-7M.
F-15C MSIP installed AN/APG-70, IR AAM & SARH AAM look like F-15C pre-MSIP but armed with 8 AIM-120A AMRAAM, F-15C ‘Akef’ MSIP addition the Python 4 is compatible with a helmet-mounted sight and AIM-120B AMRAAM
Later F-15Cs do. AMRAAMs weren’t introduced until long after F-15C was in use.
We’d get the F-15C first since it can be added to 3 tech trees at once. JP, USA, and ISR.
And it’d have 9Ls and 7F/Ms to justify 12.3.
No Aim-9Ms for F-18s unless you want them to be ~13.3+. There’d be no “Early” designation either.
We cannot accurately predict Aim-9Ms until ARHs are matured, which we don’t have yet.
Also, all F-18s can carry up to 6x Aim-9s + 4x Aim-7s at once.
It would need at least the -9M / -9P5 if not the AIM-95 to justify 12.3, 11.7 or 12.0 would be more likely due to its lack of defensive systems and baseline SARH performance.
So I guess gaijin might consider F/A-18A from USN/USMC because to be 12.3 & without AIM-120
F-15C Akef from Israel carry Python 4 is compatible with a helmet-mounted sight, additional air-to-ground capability MER-10N bomb racks and a data link pod for GBU-15 glide bombs
F-15A, F-15A Baz & F-15C MSIP maybe mounted unguided Air-to-Ground armament only
F-15C you have Mig-29-like dogfight performance with superior weapons.
Aim-9M would make it 13.0 minimum so far.
F-15C is 12.3 with 9Ls and 7F/Ms.
Python 4s aren’t for a long time either. You shouldn’t expect IRCCM missiles before we’re even at ARHs let alone matured ARH data in WT.
So guess gaijin might consider F-15C Akef MSIP with Python 4 & AIM-120B AMRAAM
I’m not sure dev consider early heavyweight 4th generation fighter aircraft from Japan & China this year ?