They had one test F-15 in the US. There are even photos of the handover ceremony with iron Cross on it. But yeah, would bee a stretch like the swedish Leopard 2A6 or the Swedish Mi-28A.
I think you have misunderstood entirely, I never said the the F-4F ICE would manage against better 4th gens, I said it would manage against much older 4th Gen fighters like the F-15 with only AIM-9 and AIM-7, and tbh i could see those vehicles at 12.3 and then just having a gap at 12.7 like we do now at 11.7.
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the dude said “12.7 is actually closer to what we’ll see advanced ARHs with. PL-12s, MICA RF, AMRAAM C, etc.” I can only assume he meant on 4th gen airframes, I would rather see a gap at 12.7 where there aren’t many aircraft at all like we have now at 11.7 with only 4 aircraft
At 12.3 we get the weak airframes with AMRAAM A & B.
So the logical step is 12.7 gets the weak airframes with PL-12 [F-8F], MICA RF [Mirage 2000], AMRAAM C [RIP bozo], and so forth.
Us also tested and used kfirs (more then one btw) but you dont see Kfir in us tech tree.
Lockheed funded and helped Soviets to create Yak-141 but you dont see Yak-141 on Us tree.
Adding Swiss F-18 was a good idea to boost Germans Top tier but this F-15 and Gripen situation is getting out of hand.
Nice and powerful
Do i need to remind you According to your claim Kai wasnt performing good enough against other top tier jets because of hop flight performance was so inferior.
What makes you think İCE will have a chance against F-15 with Sparrow in same situation?
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the argument repeats itself every day, fascinating to watch
I think by now everyone saw that picture and said their opinion about it twice
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no one said anything about variant, and no one knows which variant of the AMRAAM we will see in game, I generally assume we will see the AIM-120C first but by your logic there would be an even bigger BR gap between 3rd Gen AIM-120A and 4.5 gen AIM-120C surely.
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Sure lets add Mig25 to Japan Kfir and Yak-141 to us tech tree then.
Stop claiming F-15 just for Germany just because German pilots trailed that plane with German symbol.
There will be a gap, and we are merely offering ideas to fill that gap
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MiG-25P to Japan wouldn’t be a problem tho
that thing got be useless even against current planes
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ok could you clarify a little here, because the F-4EJ Kai was 11.3 being compared to 12.0 and I said the F-4F ICE 12.3 would be a decent mach for the F-15A 12.3 because unlike with the previous comparison the F-4F ICE would have a missile advantage over the F-15A that the F-4EJ Kai doesn’t have over the F-16.
Still doesnt make any sense in any form cause if we go with this logic us should get almost every vehicle from other nations since either they tested or captured it.
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if a german plane gets better AMRAAMs or Sidewinders than an american one the Americans will riot like nothing before
they do have a lot of captured planes tho
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FFS I never said it would get better missiles than the US, the F-15 with AMRAAMs would be at a higher BR, how is that so hard to understand
The F-4F ICE with AMRAAMs is equal to an F-15A without AMRAAMs, read the god damn context before commenting.
There only one way to clear this thread up lmao
As I said before the guys who make these fake leak lists are getting dumber day by day
a .3 BR decrease won’t save it
a .3 BR decrease never saved a sub par top tier plane before