Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

And it’ll be at an even higher br against planes that are much faster than it with far superior flight performance across the board. As soon as you try that, someone will hop on your 6 and just run you down.

I hope everyone learnt a lesson today.

If you want an argument to end then move away from the people from the other side

oh im the worlds greatest F-4F ICE wanter on this planet - bit i also look at it with a realistic Eye
it will be DoA, a F-4 Airframe with F-18 Avioniks wont save it
(its insane why i need to explain to people - not you- why a Phantom at such BR is dogshit)

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the same can be said for it’s opponents, the fact is the the F-4F ICE would be good in the current matchmaker but against Fox3 launching F-15s, F-16s and MiG-29s it is going to be severely outclassed, hell even the J-8F will be better than the F-4F ICE when it gets PL-12s

that would be fine if there was another German aircraft coming soon after but the EF-2000 is likely at least a year after all that and potentially longer. The F-4F ICE is simply not good enough.

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Everything fits together very well and will be very beautifully combined under Germany’s wing.
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A good match for their similarity)
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And you can also safely put these Beneluxers under the wing of Germany.

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Uhh because unlike Kai you can just fire and forget those Amraams maybe?

Not to mention it has better flight performance thx to agile eagle package and it can always get Aim9m if L version will not be enough.

İt will stay at support fighter role but will still be more playable then something like Ej-Kai.

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It seems Gaijin just doesn’t give Walrus though they have to. It seems more like HMS King George V(1942) or (1943)

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2S1 Devblog was on the 21.8.2023

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İ understand what you mean and i agree.

Although still cant wait to get my hands on that beauty.

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Kind of funny that out of all the other shiny leaks the most plain one looks the most legit lol

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Better flight performance than what? you can’t argue that the F.3 and 104S ASA are useless and then argue that an F4 would do fine in a 4th Gen matchmaker, flight performance matters.

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it wont get 9Ms, it can get 9L/i`s (wich are 9Ms hahah)
or maybe IRIS T later xD

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Did i say it will be compeletly fine? Not even close.

İ Said it will be a good support fighter, this means it will be not enough on many 1vs1 situations but will be a nice plane for teamwork.

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There is no normal Leopard 2A7+ or 2A7V, so it’s fake if all the equipment is allegedly indicated here.

Since rails are compatible gaijin can always find a way to add them, although i wouldnt mind firing those crazy IRIS-T’s from my good old İCE :)

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And again, I feel like I’m going around in circles, the F-4EJ Kai was a perfectly good support fighter but the F-16AJ still got added, why should Japan get special treatment here?

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how can it be faked when it predicted 3 vehicles?
because there is no 2A7v on it?

The 9M will have only a low-smoke engine, and the 9L/I-1 will have improved noise immunity, because there was a replacement of the rocket’s GOS.

Thats why im supporting that Swiss F-18 should be added.

Didnt you read nothing from my previous comments?

The AJ got added for guided CAS, not because Japan didn’t have a fighter