from what I’ve heard DM73 had 20% more penetration power than DM63 and DM83 should also have in turn 20% more than 73
but that sounds so much like Sales speech that I wouldn’t call it usable info
MiG-25P is the earlier version without the PD radar, I honestly don’t see them adding it at all, it would be so so bad, basically a pure bomber hunter when there are no strategic bombers past 7.3 really.
When you mention “early” F-15, are you meaning in terms of radar and weapons (so like a gimped MSIP II F-15A), are FULL early (with no CMs as well)
It wouldnt be the first time gaijin retconned flares onto a jet F-5A anyone?
I mean the F-15 as it was when it was first put to service
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An F-15 with no countermeasures sounds horrible, it would be too good offensively to be anywhere below 11.3 but too bad defensively to be anywhere above 10.3, like how do you balance that?
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maybe f15c
Yeah…
That do be a certified USAF “air superiority aircraft/interceptor” moment
From what I remember, only like one or two squadrons’ worth of F-15A/Bs were upgraded via the MSIP II program in 1985, since the original MSIP I program (dedicated to the A/B models) was cancelled.
Funnily enough, F-15C was the same as the A until 1985 with MSIP II, so no CMs…
Ah, then that would mean a “no Countermeasures” F-15A
So the R-73 was in service before most F-15 were carrying flares, that’s wild
We have era “relict” with settings from booklets of developers. That may work in two sides…
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Yep. I think the Israelis had their own program in the early 80s to put CMs on their Eagles, but it may have also been around the same time as MSIP II
Maybe.
Possibly not depending on if Su-27 is superior in internal testing or not.
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Mig-25s are at best 11.0.
Mig-31 for a better one, but even then that’s still 12.0 likely.
well seems like su 27 is a long way away then if those 2 should come first
So where is todays stupid guesses at leaks? i wanna have a laugh at peoples stupid fakes
Missed these two that seems to have slipped into the trees today, as well:
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Is this from the F-16 loadout server leak
I guess early event vehicle aircraft rank 7 for USSR maybe MiG-25P
MiG-25 all variants never mounted R-73
I guess AIM-7P specific to early 4th gen fighter aircraft from USN/USMC (F-14D & F/A-18C) only but 4th gen fighter aircraft from USAF could get AIM-7MH
Su-27S Flanker B equivalent F-15C pre-MSIP (USAF) with AN/APG-63 PSP radar, IR AAM AIM-9L/AIM-9M & SARH BVR AIM-7M/AIM-7MH, and Su-27S some better F-15C pre-MSIP because equipped helmet mounted sight (HMS)
I guess F-15A Early no CM, carry AIM-9J & AIM-7E-2/AIM-7E-3 but F-15A MSIP II or F-15A late fitted AN/ALE-40 CM, carry AIM-9J/AIM-9L sidewinder & AIM-7F sparrow
F-15 Baz from Israel some like F-15A MSIP II (USAF) but integrated Python 3 and extra countermeasures
Like how yak141 was equipped with working radar, irst and could use any weapons at all?
You mean those “facts”?
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this will be a great move… korea didn’t have their tanks during ww2 as far as I know… so its totally justified… I’m looking forward to Korean tech tree in japan (just as south african in britan)