Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

we had “leaks” but they’re most certainly all false
we’ll keep you updated
and on the nobody cares part so did I

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Rank 8 November 2022
Rank 7 May 2021

So you wrong

it would probably be better in some aspects than F-16A

Gripen is slower, but more countermeasures.
Gripen has better low speed capabilities.
F-15C is coming regardless because of Japan, and can come at anytime.

@Deathmisser
Rank 6 was 2017. 2023-2017=6. 6/2 new ranks = 3.
And as proven with all 1980+ tanks going to rank 7, 2021 was well late for rank 7.

The K2000 is debated to be fox 3 capable however the IAF used it exclusively as an A2G platform and I don’t think there is any documentation of the loading the K2000 with AMRAAMs so it’s unlikely it will ever have them in game.

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oh god imagine

winter update adds F-15A and MiG-25PD with MiG-25P as the Winter event top reward

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They will add Su27 alongside F-15

they could add Su27 alongside F-15

but I dont see them leaving MiG-25s out

Hopefully they will add Su15s soon

MiG-25s wont be the top fighter for USSR when F-15 is added.

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the P won’t no

but PD/PDS with R-40RD/TD and R-60M or R-73 could

and I’d not be surprised if they wait with R-73 on usable airframes for a later modification of thing to get them

possibly, NATO really needs some better missiles before the SU-27 comes in with 4/6 R-73 and 4/6 R-27, but if NATO gets the AIM-9M and AIM-7P Block II to level the playing field or if Russia loses the R-27ER then yes the SU-27 could very well come to the game alongside the F-15.

I personally wouldn’t hold my breath for it and expect it will come a patch or two later but again that’s just my own predictions.

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it would be nothing but a glorified Tornado. F-15 will be still better than MiG-25

I’m not sure the MiG-25 carried the R-73 and even so the MiG-25 still wouldn’t be a great match for the F-15, it would fly more like a Tornado F.3 shooting long range missile from a distance and keeping up speed so it can avoid dogfights.

Still would love to see the MiG-25 in game though, it feels like it could be added now easily enough, don’t even think it would be 12.0.

Hate to break it to you, but:
The F-20 was an entirely different airframe to the F-5A/C and F-5E.
It had major structural changes to (attempt) to make it more on par with its contemporaries (F-16, F/A-18), as well as an entirely new flight control system.
Edit: Think of the F-20 not as a modified F-5, but a proper familial development (it shares similarities with the previous aircraft in the F-5/T-38 family, but is also entirely new). Sort of like how the F/A-18A/B/C/D is a development of the YF-17, or the F/A-18E/F is a development of the Legacy Hornets.

Edit 2 (previous sentence here felt more mean-spirited after reflection, decided to replace it with something less-so): Gaijin (based on my knowledge) has never fully replaced a premium aircraft with something way more capable than what it used to be (it would be a tad chaotic to suddenly wake up one morning and find that your F-5C is gone, instead being replaced by a plane capable of matching the F-16 in some flight parameters, as well as in terms of weapons, and being at a battle rating of 11.7-12.0).

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im not doubting that

after all it was designed only to intercept B-70s

I just think that now would be the right time for a late MiG-25 with OK medium range missiles and 2 or 4 R-73

it would fit well to counter an early F-15 which is already countered by MiG-29

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the problem with MiG-25 is that most the info is from the very first version which carried only R-40R/T as armarment

I’ve seen pictures of them and I’ve heard claims that the later versions could carry R-73, what is certain is that they carried R-60M from the PD onwards

and R-40 aren’t even that long range because keep in mind they are less advanced as R-27ER and with a missile their size I doubt they’d be manoeuvrable

Do you think we’ll get a DM-73 on 2A7V or 2A7+, which is bound to be in this update. I just understand there is little information on the Dm-83, but you can still find it on the Dm-73, because we need an obps to break through the dz relict. And how do you think the developers will be able to give us 2 tops at once. In the form of 2A7+ and 2A7V in this update. But I think how the upgrade to 2A6 will be (EX), and to 2A5 TWS II or modification of other countries. We must regain balance and comfort for ourselves and our eyes.

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You are right, just looking at what is easily available the R-40 has a similar range to the R-27R, and way less than the ER, given that I think it would be interesting to put it at a much lower BR, like 10.7 with just the R-40s and R-60s, it would fill an interesting niche of being an even worse dogfighter than the F-104 but with a PD radar and longer range but not very maneuverable missiles it could fill that early interceptor role quite well, the kind of thing that has good early match impact but if it ends up in a 1 v 3 at the end stands absolutely no chance. Just a thought.

this is exactly why I see the MiG-25P as an event vehicle

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