With M735 still not fix. Maybe asking for M735A1 to replace them (M735 but depleted uranium) should be viable options.
M735 is already DU.
Huh? The standard M735 is a Tungsten round.
That’s because we have actual data for M735s alloy density, but it indeed is a Tungsten rod.
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I might be missing it because I’m tired right now, but where does it state the density on that source?
Not this one specifically tbh, for that you will have to ask @Conraire I believe. The one I posted is to show that M735 (not E1 which is the DU version), is a Tungsten projectile because of what it states on the image; “Tungsten Alloy Grade X11”.
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Yes, I’m aware that M735 is Tungsten IRL, but I’m merely pointing out that Gaijin has it modelled as what I presume to be DU given the density they attributed to it.
Perhaps M735 had a density of 18500 with Tungsten, but that seems odd to me given the time period?
hmm… interesting. If that really the case. then Gaijin would need to change its name to not confuse people.
But with what Jεcka show. I’ll wait for more information on M735 vs M735A1 difference. (like estimate or calculation)
As it seem there still ain’t much on M735A1 side.
For what i’ve found. Steven Zaloga in his old book on the M1 wrote that the Israeli tank battalion credited with knocking out T-72s in Lebanon in 1982 using round with comparable performance to the M735A1. Likely M111 Hetz
M111 stat currently in-game
The density is stated in another document
However, that source isn’t necessarily 100% correct. The XM578/579 Projectile, used Kennametal W-2 Tungsten alloy. Which is a 97.2% W, with Ni, Fe, Cu, Co mix.
Teledyne Firth Sterling, X11 Tungsten alloy, is a Class 4 alloy of approximately the same density as W-2, but with a different alloy composition and improved mechanical properties.
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Think this is from another document
I’ve also found the original document source for this image.
As far as M735A1, the core would have the same density as regular M735, as the processing of the green salts for the DU blanks was still being perfected at the time. Going by my L-O Jacketed Calcs, if both rounds were performing properly, M735A1 would be about 3mm worse at 10m, and 6mm better at 2000m vertical…
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Have we passed the one year anniversary mark of this shell still not being fixed?
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It will never be fixed because in doing so Gaijin would have to admit they were wrong and made a mistake.
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It will never get fixed because then the Ivanboos will start crying again when it was a middlin’ round to even start with.
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Never unless someone have documents
m1 abrams having this as a stock round is pain
velocity is the biggest factor most likely
the thing is there are documents, gaijn is just ignoring them
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iirc the m735 should have 350mm 0 degree at 10-100m irl
the xm578e4 achieve around ~330mm
m774 is kinda correct(its just minor improvement over m735)
m833 should be close to dm33
Because they stopped caring about anything being realistic when they started adding modern vehicles. They really need to go back to their old ways that were honorable and respectable. This game does not deserve the title realistic anymore.
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I forget the specifics of M735, all I know is it increased angled pen by 2mm when they changed its flat pen.
Also M833 is close to 105mm DM33, they’re within 2mm of each other at 2000 meters against a 60 degree angled plate.
@GNDM_Panzer
Yet NATO hardware is more powerful than everything in the Soviet tech tree.