People waiting to play: 50 Russian, 6 ALL OTHERS combined. Why? Because Russian 4.0 is bullsht. Non-Russian players die once and leave. Russia wins. Complete bullsht.
I can see why people ONLY play Russian…
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Nah, literally anyone who plays the BR range knows its an OP list. Nearly nothing except russia has armor at the BR, meaning russian guns OHK pretty easily on center mass shots. Combine that with new players and the rng bounces and russia steamrolls 4.0. Sweden has the next best 4.0 but all they have is an amazing gun on squishy platforms with significant drawbacks. You OHK them, they OHK you, but KVs can 2+v2+ far, far better.
And numbers don’t lie. People have identified the list long ago and gravitate towards it. Historically there is a ton of precident for breaking up strong lists even without individual tanks overperforming (looking at brits).
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the russian 4.0 lineup is insane good I will give you that.
I do so well in T34s that despite hardly playing USSR I have progressed in that tree faster than the others I played a lot of.
especially when in a full downtier a lot of tanks are physically unable to penetrate your armour.
ought to all move up by .3 or .7 of a br
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I don’t really know, maybe because people are abusing the compression? I’d say battle rating 4.7 has a lot to offer than battle rating 4.0 USSR, but, I would go for German as it has some easy vehicles to play with good weapons and mobility.
I wouldn’t recommend USA as the best vehicles are Premium (e.g., T14 Assault Tank) or maybe Japan, the battle rating 4.0 Japan is very versatile with vehicles like the M42 which despite being an SPAAG it’s very potent against medium and light vehicles where the M44 SPG is the main prize, anti everything but vulnerable to anything.
People having issues of skill against other teams is as old as time itself.
Happens in all PVP games.
@Zephoid
Germany and USA have the only OP non light tanks left: Jagdpanzer IV and M4A2.
KV-1Es were moved up to 4.3.
M24s are also still under-BR’d as well.
Oh, and the best 4.0 lineups go to Italy, France, and USA.
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me yesterday playing 11.0 russia. Doing very well for my team with 11 kills. still loosing cuz teamm8s got one kill per death.
Swedens winrate until top tier is just tragic and damn britains winrate is literally carried by the fox, no wonder why gaijin made sure it would be moved up so high its useless.
And how tf is the BRs where the pz4 long gun at germanys worst? that thing is a whole BR undertier
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They already ruined 4.0 by upping half of their vehicles into 4.3…
And half the 4.0s are former 3.7s that were upped in BR for no specific reason anyway.
Yep, Russian 4.0-4.3 is totally ruined and underpowered
laughs in Yak-9K, IL-8, KV-7, and SU-152
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how does france have one of the best 4.0 lineups with only 1 4.0 tank? I could understand it if you said 3.7 but 4.0 is such a weird br to say france is strong
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Yak-9K is 4.7, SU-152 is no where close to great.
@RedRockingHorse
Its 3.7s that are stupidly good complimenting that 4.0 + the 4.0 aircraft.
3.7 France, much like 3.7 USA, Italy, etc are just flat out OP.
Limited battlepass vehicle
Limited special event vehicle which isn’t all that special on the first place since you can’t even angle it- now facing Panther Ds, T1E1s and M3A2 (76)Ws, apart from Vk 30.02s, M6s, and a long etc.
One OP vehicle, yes, but it’s one and it’s a plane
Still OP.
Even with the BR increase, it’s still incredibly OP.
SU-152 isn’t OP, but it’s still very powerful, and adds to the lineup as a whole.
What’s so “incredibly OP” about KV-7? It’s just a KV-1 that can’t angle which is forced to face Panthers with 80mm of pen…
It’s great on downtiers, and just nice at its own BR; but the moment it’s uptiered, and even more so now, it’s really not any great.
And, as I said; it’s unfair to count limited event vehicles that only a fraction of players have when talking about a lineup.
Don’t use the thunderskill chart, use the Statshark one.
well, don’t use either because win rates mean basically nothing but still at least get the correct chart.
4.3 usa and 4.7 germany and usa are biased data because they only have 1 vehicle. t55, t14, pak puma.
but look at italy 4.0 vs russia 4.0.
does this mean italy is better than russia at 4.0?
no not really. these charts and win rates basically mean nothing, the fact gaijin uses win rates at all for balance kinda sucks ass
Where do you get the idea that it can’t angle?
Even in uptiers, most enemies are 4.0-5.0. 5.3s are pretty rare.
That’s a fair point, but Russia still has some very good 4.0s and 4.3s.
1 kill per death is a very decent team bro, usually half the team has 0 kill and 2-3 deaths.
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Win rates would be usable if it was 1 nation vs 1 nation matches instead of mixed battles, air is even worse because America is on both teams nearly every game, and sometimes russia too.