They’re useless because they’re shit. American SPAA are worse than damn BUK. The only usable multi vehicle SPAAs are French, Italian and after recent unnerf - German.
Pantsir was usable this entire time, against everything besides highly agile targets, but surely untouchable by any munition it faced.
French and Italian work only against targets that aren’t multipathing, which there aren’t many.
German is good, but buggy as hell. And even their missile is artificially slowed down.
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Yeah this is like the first time Pantsir was introduced.
Russia, once again has:
-The trio of the best SAMs in the game (Pantsir, BUK, Panstir SM)
-Best CAS in the game (Mi-28NM, Su-30SM2)
-Best MBTs, broken BMPT and IFVs
They literally cannot go an update without receiving a handout that makes them dominate. It’s unreal how biased the game is. NATO on the other hand gets two useless wheeled IFVs. What’s even the point of playing anything else.
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Hypersonic missiles with 40km range.(1300m/s vs 1700m/s)
Better radar
Better chassis
Ability to replace a single missile tube by 4 smaller missiles to intercept drone and ammunition. So you could get 6 hypersonic missiles with 24 smaller missiles for pretty much infinite ammo during match with your ammo box.
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I wouldnt say they have the best MBTs, but they do have by far the best CAS lineup and the best SAMs
China?
ok all jokes aside… let’s be real all of the SACLOS spaa’s can handle the LDIRCM helicopter. I’m an average player and if I can take them down with things like ADATS and FlaRakRad, so can others…
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they really cant if the helo knows how to play
because if the helo is playing well it either wont be out of cover long enough for a missile to hit, or will just overwhelm the AA and get kill it in a single pop up
and guess which current SACLOS AA is by far the best against both of these through having the fastest missiles and being able to intercept multiple targets at once
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If a skill issue is severe enough the gun you’re shooting always points at you.
Is gaijin even going to make it this OP? I don’t want it be like the Bukm3 everyone complainning it being way too OP and then in the live server becoming the worst SPAA in game.
This.
I don’t even get how NATO players still play somehow. You don’t play Russia, you don’t win and can’t have fun.
What?
I’ll take anything over the ADATS ngl. I’m sure UK has some options, or perhaps India and South Africa have options that are infinitely better than the ADATS.
Man I frequently outplay Pantsirs in UHT. If heli isn’t trying to die - he wouldn’t.
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Well that can be said for literally anything… if a player with Hellcat know how to play, he can get a nuke in 12.7 battle… if a Spaa player knows how to play he can take down the LDIRCM helicopter and if he/she is at a BR to face LDIRCM heli, well he/she should know how to play.
The Borderline is the Gaijin needs to fix the mechanics. Simply because the NATO countries don’t really have anything comparable to the Russian short- to medium-range Sam’s—that is not either just missiles or just guns.
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Another player riot is on the horizon
So the Pantsir in not the “be all and end all”? Right?
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no, because if the helo sticks near cover, its pretty much untouchable to SACLOS as long as it ducks when it gets a missile launched on it (which it should know by MAWS direction)
but of course the easiest SACLOS AA to fight happens to be the ones with the slowest missiles, wheras the pantsir has the fastest
and for the helo to kill the AA the AA needs to not be able to intercept its missiles, which the pantsir can easily intercept 3 while engaging the helo when it pops up
can confirm this is in fact not the case
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it is still by far the best SACLOS AA to counter helos