I have never heard of a top tier vehicle not being mentioned after it’s release. a long awaited variant nonetheless. was the decision to have it at 13.0 and only 2 Derby hurts it so bad?
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2x 9m and 2x Derby is really mid at 13.0, it being slow af doesn’t really help either. Gaijin shown that it can carry much more missile in the trailer (and it can irl) or that it can use python 4 but i guess they decided to gimped it to make it the worse F5 ever. Sadly since it got derby it not gonna go any lower than 13.0 and even if it does move down to 12.7, it would still be mid.
U know it is bad when one of the main features on the dev blog was “Afterburner” lmao
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Im glad its not another undertiered F5 variant i hate those wretched planes
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Except its top speed, I find it as quite enjoyable - only in ground RB, it doesn’t seem to have much of use imo.
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F-5TH is pretty much an AV-8B+ or Kfir C10, and they’re the same BR.
I think 13.0 is balanced for it; we should push for further decompression of 13.0.
There are ~11 13.0s that need to be 13.3, F-5TH isn’t one of them.
Kfir has better flight performance, but loses AIM-9Ms.
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Have not unlocked it yet, 155k RP away until I own it. That being said I expect it to be a pretty rough aircraft at 13.0 while the Derby missiles are a lot better than people make them out to be, they are highly dependent on the aircraft carry them. Kfir C.10 for example only has 4 at the same BR of 13.0 but makes them work because it can easily reach 9km+ and get above Mach 1.3+ at the same time especially with a low fuel load. Obviously that wont be the case with the F-5.
I think this aircraft sits in that awkward spot of “too good to go any lower, but no reason to use it at its current BR due to better options”. Like it will clearly be better than the F-16AJ, MiG-29, Netz, Yak-141, Mirage 2000 C-S5 and possibly F-14A Early based on its loadout alone so it wouldn’t be very fair to bring it to 12.7, but at 13.0 there are just better aircraft, such as the Kfir C.10, F-14A IRIAF, Su-27/J-11, Su-33, Tornado F.3 Late, F-2A ADTW, MiG-29G, J-8F and not to mention all of the vastly better aircraft only .3-.7 BR higher.
I will update this comment when its unlocked to give my final thoughts.
Edit: Have finally unlocked it. While its still 100% stock, just the few games I have played im a lot more disappointed than I thought I would be.
Biggest Cons:
x2 Derby’s that really struggle beyond 4-5km~ due to being fired just above Mach 1 at sea level. More often than not your target will be able to notch, and since your missiles are moving so slow its enough to knock them off course and not be able to correct themselves if you regain a lock. You also have to be extremely selective with your targets, if a teammate is nearby its best not to fire on the enemy as they will likely have their missile hit first, wasting half your ARH missiles.
Didn’t realize this before, but it only has a single M39A3 20mm. The damage isn’t great when you have 2, having only one with 280 rounds really limits your ability to take out targets quickly, especially more tanky vehicles like Flankers and F/A-18s.
The RWR is terrible, especially bad when you only have 45 CMs.
The Air Frame and Engine struggle a lot more than I thought they would. Even with its great turn times, the weak engines are just not enough to keep up with the other 13.0-14.0 jets unless its something like a F-4 or Harrier or F-15 loaded with ordnance and fuel. Despite both the Kfir C.10 and F-5TH both being early 3rd gen. platforms, the F-5 REALLY shows it age when matched up against true 4-4.5 gen fighters.
While I can see this being a good amount of fun fully spaded… you likely will not be carrying any matches with it. Its simply too slow with too few weapons, large maps really put you at a huge disadvantage. Once you are out of your x2 Derby and x2 AIM-9L/M that’s likely the end of the road for you, as returning to the base is difficult given your top speed and low counter measures.
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i wouldn’t say better
kfir is much faster with a possibility to take 4 arh
harrier has more missiles
(also isnt this particular f5 supposed to have 4 derby missiles?)
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Bro 2 9ms and 2 fox 3s at 13.0 if fair. u cant put it lower
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From my limited research its supposed to be able to carry x4 AIM-120 or x4 Derby along with x2 IR missiles on the wing tips, Cant really find any solid sources though.
But being able to carry x4 ARH would be a godsend, as it currently stands this is easily the worst 12.7-14.3 I have ever played, apart from the Netz. Especially with how inconsistent the Derby missiles are, its very common to get 2 “hits” or “crits” with the only ARH missiles you carry. I’d go as far to say even the F-16AJ and MiG-29 are more competitive in uptiers than the F-5TH.
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so it’s actual weapon suite should be similar to gripen without GE F404 and BoL? damn. sad plane.
F-5 cant go past mach 1 at sl and takes a lot of time to get up to speed at high alt, only has 2 FOX-3s, and x45 countermeasures.
Kfir is one of the fastest planes in game with 2 more FOX-3s, more countermeasures and way better in everything.
Like, come on.
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your error was trying to talk to Alvis on BR placements when most of his opinions hinge on “yeah 13.0 as a number just sounds like F-5TH”
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He probably thinks the aim7 is a GREAT missile and is better than the r27 somehow.
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Unfortunately with ARH missiles it can’t go any lower without being very OP.
13.0 can probably be split into 3 different BRs at this point, but I doubt that will happen.
Glad we agree on Kfir having better overall flight performance.
Your screenshots were added to the post.
Not sure why you’re calling your own post nonsense when you’re literally agreeing with me that Kfir has better flight performance.
@Zulizia
Lein and I are agreeing here.
There are ~11 13.0s that should be 13.3 instead.
@Ripbozo
I’d like for you to prove to us that R-27ER is inferior to AIM-7F+.
I wouldn’t say better either, a typing error was involved.
The typing error has been fixed. Not sure how something that was never my opinion or stance got in the post.
read my comment again.
Yes, your post is stating something no one else believes.
So prove it or admit that I’m right that R-27ER is at least slightly better than AIM-7F+.
I heard you were special but not that special.
I clearly stated the R27 is magnitudes better than the aim7, your lack of reading comprehension is your problem, not mine.
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