There is literally No plus to the Chieftain 900, Not one.
Part of that is the 900 being an amazing 2nd spawn for the UK9.0 line up, buuut the play style of the Mk10 (the likely first spawn) isnt one where you die a lot, given it’s a textbook second line support sort of tank
This is a completely different topic.
im talking about the Planned BR changes, and since the OG thread about them has been locked, i wanted to voice my concerns about the Chieftains being moved up for no reason.
I genuinely think moving the Mk10, and 900 up to 9.3 is a huge mistake.
They are some of the most well balanced vehicles in the game. They can do good in good hands, But they aren’t massively overpowered, they are balanced out by their Mobility and slow reloads. Along with their sub par optics.
plus by moving them up you will be killing one of the best Lineups in the UK Tree.
I think t72a is just too good. Got the leopard 120 last sale recently and even though protection analysis mostly shows it can it frequently can’t shoot through t72s upper armor, and im pretty sure it’s one of the highest pens at this rating.
Im not a tanks expert but fact that almost everything at this rating is easily penetrated everywhere but t72 you have to aim quite specifically to kill it is a little stupid. Reached 11.7 using Khalid too and t72 was always problematic for me
Besides, the Chieftain Mk10 works great at 9.0 as a Counter of the AM model T-55 and T-62. Without the Chieftain there as a balancing factor, as a vehicle that can keep them in check, they are just going to run rampant in 8.0 down tiers.
I mean are you really trying to imply that a early 1960s MBT, upgraded as a Stop Gap just to fill the gap until the MBT-80, and then the Challenger was ready, IS BETTER, than the Object 279? or the TTS M60s that reload faster, get near identical performing rounds, and better sights? I get the M60s don’t have composite armor, But they also have a mantlet that is 80% of their turret front, and is basically a black hole.
they arent too slow to do anything. they force you to learn how to position
as if thats bad
skill issue. L15a3 can be used at 10.0 easily still
bro cant upper plate a tank that dies to DM23 with a shell thats still decent at 10.7
the chieftain mk10 and 900 should NOT go up but good lord make a good argument instead of a skill cope argument.
Khalid is a better chieftain 900 as its mobility rivals the leopard 1. Scratch that, its the british peer to the Leopard 1a5 but heavier. Its almost balanced perfectly at 9.3 with the 1a5, MBT70, T-64A, AMX 32. Its nonsensical to have the mk10s slow ass and a literal khalid but half the mobility at teh same BR as it
all the chieftains are in desperate need of a faster reload to actually be on a level playing field (a chieftain probably should be pusing 5.5 seconds on ace crew but seeing as gaijin thinks a L7 105 takes 6.7 seconds to reload it should take the same time (three piece ammo is easier on the loader)
The mk10 and 900 are played by british mains that know their tanks well. moving them up to where they are unviable (ground at that BR is extremely quick for things to move from OP to balanced to trash) just punishes players for being decent with a well rounded vehicle.
Dont balance based on the player, balance based on the actual tools available to the player
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Thank you. That is what ive been trying to say, just not well at all.