Because they have only recently become self sufficient on military technology, and still holding onto and using a lot of old Cold War relics. Also china included the PRC and RoC.
The A-21 fighter sucked, but let’s talk Finland first. Finland is a lot like china, except actually keeping up in technology. The Viggen is getting a nerf, the Draken is getting a nerf, and Sweden had massive holes in the Ground TT pre Finland.
They historically used it, therefore it should be in their TT.
In an overarching and general sense, if a nation op-ed a vehicle, they should have it.
Yeah. This potential addition terrifies me. Its insane and stupid.
Gripen I can accept. South Africa is technically a sub-TT. But there were other options that Gaijin just straight up denied. But I just stuck a Typhoon skin on it and I treat it as a baby-Typhoon. But As soon as I get FA2. It probably wont be played.
By tech tree I mean the whole tree, premium as well. Should’ve made that clear. M4A4 isn’t exactly unique, it’s in most trees, and two Fireflies, one of which is already in Britain. The thing with the fireflies is that they should go to Britain, as they weren’t modified by Italy as far as I know.
Composite, 63.8mm frontal plate at 3.7, bounces a lot of shots.
Yes, but does it have to go with every country? I want the game to be exciting, I don’t want to have the same bland enemies every single match.
Does not exactly excuse having them throughout multiple tech trees. Yes I know they were exported/captured etc.
Same with the Sherman, it doesn’t have to be everywhere. I’m not saying this out of a realism point of view. I’m saying it out of gameplay. I. Want. To. Have. Fun. I want to need to change my tactics every so often so it’s not always point and click.
So do the same with Israel, take away their earlier tree.
Not generically, but specifically based on someone or an event yes. Remember this is all my opinion. I respect yours as well!
These stuff are pretty much exported everywhere in real life. However ahem F-16AJ ahem…
Gaijin likes sweden.
On ranks I-IV and air I-V probably yes because WWII era China barely had a military industry therefore importing almost everything and their aviation industry didnt begun to shine untill late 70s. Gaijin added them anyway for some reason…
On ranks IV onwards… are there actrually that much pure copy pastes? Most of them, as you said are implemented correctly, are or certain vehicles based off of historical events/people or with modifications based on the original.
Best solution of China is starting from rank IV at the beginning like israel but well the whole point of Gaijin adding China tree (from the tencent cilent to the “everyone” cilent) back in
is pretty much because it was near the
and Gaijin wanted all that Chinese player money… Winks
We all do.
This Mig-21 Bizon, as it is in real life, an aircraft modified heavily aswell not a copy paste.
Updated cockpit, new radar (Копё, iirc), fox 3 capabilities so on. Totally different except they looks probably similar…
Gaijin wants some bAlAnCe as I believe… No comment on this because i don’t want to get censored. ;)
Seeing the J-11A MLU on the leak list i feel the same especially they have plenty of unique alternative choices.
I completely understand they are exported everywhere, but so were Hurricanes, are they in every tree? Nope. That’s not the point anyway, I wish gaijin would keep native to the countries they were developed in when possible, and make something like skins for the exported ones.
that’s a good point and I was corrected, but you see what I mean yeah?
wait was China added in 2019? gee I’m getting old
True, but like with the squadron vehicle MBT that’s Indian iirc I don’t want it in the tree. Same as the JAS-39, though then again Ii don’t knkow much about the MiG-21 Bizon so I guess I was wrong there.
a) The Shermans are exported to more opreators than the Hawker Hurricane.
b) The Hurricanes are currently in 3 trees ingame (UK, USSR, Sweden).
However I do want more Hurricanes though. I believe more fitting counterpart on this topic would be P-51 or the Spitfire; These aircrafts are largely exported aswell and ingame more trees includes them (6 trees has spitfires and thanks for gaijin’s battlepass copypaste spam, 7 trees now have P-51s). However I do hate brutal copy pastes… If there’s really no alternative like the Swede Konigstigre, fine. If there are plenty of alternatives and gaijin still insists on copy pastes… Well, [censored].
Yes. China has many unique modern vehicles that justifies its addition to the game. They could have very easily added the tree like they did Israel with an immediate skip to ~Rank IV where it starts producing actual unique vehicles.
But would it not be better suited for the Russian TT?
It is ultimately a Mig-21. Considering the dozen or so alternatives Britain could get (including aircraft britain actually used). Its just insane to add this to our TT. It’s also probably going to be totally DOA
There is a case for copy paste vehicles in other tech trees but Gaijin really exaggerated. And I think most people are absolutists regarding this. Either entierely pro or entirely anti.
Your argument about not fighting your own stuff is legitimate. I also find it as a former Israel main to be a serious problem that Gaijin made it 90% copy paste, when even a tree just half that size but almost entirely unique vehicles, would be a much better experience. Because Gaijin doesn’t just do one stage of copy paste, but they take already copied vehicles and then copy them harder. Case in point - Magach line.
iirc the Russians has their Mig-21-93 as better candidate.
Perhaps Gaijin adding an India aircraft is because they want, y’know, the India money? :thinking:
Also it will be great if you can list alternative choises Britain has since I don’t know much about it.
Saudi Arabian Tornado F3 (would need to double check they had AMRAAM)
Indian Sea Harrier FRS51
RAF BAE Hawk (could be anywhere from 9.0-12.0+)
11.0+
Saudi Arabian Tornado Gr1
(Saudi Arabian Tornado F3 without AMRAAM)
RAF Harrier Gr5
RAF Jaguar GR3A
(Other Indian Jaguars)
10.0+
South African Mirage III
South African Cheatah C or D
TSR2
9.0+
South African Buccaneer S50
Omani or Singapore Hawker Hunter
Few more I’ve probably forgotten as well.
The point is. There is 0 need to add a Soviet aircraft to our TT. If they want to add more indian, fine, but at least add the Indian stuff we exported to them and not the stuff they imported from Russia.
probably, so they should add that and not add the Russian one at all.
Me too, they’re one of my favourite planes, but I want them unique. That’s all I’m asking, I’m not good at wording stuff but having like the same M4A4 in every tree is annoying, when you could add different versions, and where’s the M4A2E8? M4A3 75? I’m not 100% sure who got what I just want more unique stuff.
Even I’m against that, I see the premise of it, but they could have made it something more… interesting? Or even mixing the battlepass with the Norwegians and Fins instead to open up stuff.
correct, I have been corrected
I personally think that this is the best solution, but too late now right?
Exactly my argument.
I heard it might be a premium, if it is, yes I will fork over the $120 to buy the damn thing, but that’s just because I love both the British tree and MiG-21s. Does NOT mean I want it in the tree. All for adding it to Russia though!
I mean couldn’t Britain get an early EF Typhoon prototype?
yes… but why not add to Russia? I know your point about the MiG-21-93 but more people want to grind USSR so wouldn’t it generate more money?
I main the big 3 but for me small nations are about being unique and copy paste kills that to a degree and I would rather accept the gaps but then I am not Italian or Chinese. Maybe copy paste is preferable to having outrageous mixed eras though.
