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What do you think should be the fate of Singaporean Vehicles in the game?
- Singapore in one Sub-Tree under Israel
- Singapore in one Sub-Tree under China (Gaijin’s original proposition)
- Singapore in one Sub-Tree under Japan
- Singapore in one Sub-Tree under Other nation (Comment and specify)
- Singaporean content is held off until a better suitable nation is added as a main tech tree to the game
- Singaporean vehicles split over multiple trees (Current situation)
- N/A
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In the upcoming update, the devblog for the Singaporean Hunter AFV has clearly outlined that the future of Singaporean vehicles is to be split among multiple trees.
Dev Note: As mentioned last year in a Community Update news, Singapore’s ground vehicles will be distributed among various in-game nations, taking into account the characteristics and needs of both the vehicle itself and the nations where it might be added. These characteristics could be technical or gameplay related. For example, the Hunter AFV’s weapon module is Israeli-made, and Israel has virtually no variety of light support combat vehicles in War Thunder. Therefore, we believe the Hunter AFV will be a welcome addition to current and future vehicle lineups for Israel.
From what I have gathered, splitting the Singaporean vehicles over multiple trees is extremely unpopular with the vast majority of people, you can see this by just reading through the comments on the devblog.
As a Singaporean myself, I would like to propose that Singaporean vehicles are kept together in one sub tree, similar to those added recently such as Thailand. This poll is to see the popularity of such an idea.
Personally, I would far rather have Singaporean vehicles together in one tree, regardless what tree they end up. The idea of splitting vehicles and suffering in the same way as Canadian players do makes my stomach churn. It is extremely disrespectful to Singaporean players to put them through the same experience, clearly outlined in the past all over the forums by Canadians and others, to be very unpleasant. People do not want their own country’s vehicles split up.
If Singaporean vehicles do not bring enough variety to Israel, to warrant breaking them up over other nations, I urge Gaijin to reconsider where it decides to place our sub tree. If it becomes necessary to withhold Singapore as a sub tree until a future tree is added, I would far rather that option is taken.
I would very much like to see the reaction to this poll, and if this gets seen, would like to hear a response from a developer if possible.
I’m open to further discussion, please let me know if I’m wrong.
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Maybe be a subtree for USA.
Yeah, having Nations split between multiple trees is just insulting to players from those nations.
Nah, put Israel back into the USA tree like it used to be, trying to build an entire TT around 1 unique tank was a dumb idea to begin with.
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I wanted to add that I personally would think that adding Singapore to China as a Sub-Tree would be a good idea as an alternative to Israel, if gaijin doesn’t deem Singapore to add enough variety. I did not add this to the main poll in an effort to keep it at a neutral perspective.
I previously wrote why I believe this is the correct course of action here as it would allow for far more additions of Singaporean vehicles due to less overlap. My greatest fear with the addition of Singapore to Israel is that due to similar vehicles existing in the tree, (e.g. F-16I, F-15I, Ayit) that we will lose out on our most iconic and main service vehicles.
This was mentioned a large amount of times in the Hunter AFV devblog, where many people raised the issue that the hunter would only bloat the tree, already having 3 vehicles of similar roles, with identical weapon sets (2x Namer, Eitan). If Israel is not a good match, it is not a good reason to force vehicles into the tree anyway, and split up other vehicles elsewhere.
Singapore being leaked as a Chinese Sub-Tree, previously generated a lot of controversy within the community, and has ultimately lead to Gaijin’s decision to split our vehicles over multiple nations, in an attempt at damage control. I urge Gaijin to reconsider this, and provide us with a proper Sub-Tree, whether that be in Israel, back in China, or elsewhere as required.
Many players also make the point that they want Singapore as a Sub-Tree of Japan due to the fact they have other ASEAN nations already. I believe that the fact Japan already has Three Sub-Trees (Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand), and could possibly also receive the Philippines in the future, is already providing far more than enough future content. Indonesia in fact is arriving this update, and would already bring a lot of variety such as the Leopard 2RI, and Harimaru.
Regarding China, people who believe that this is another “Senator I’m Singaporean” situation, I urge you to read through my previously linked message and understand my point of view. If Israel is not deemed suitable for gaijin as the home of the Singapore Sub-Tree, I urge they reconsider China as the appropriate alternative option.
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Wdym just 1, it has way many more vehicles, especially considering the involvement with development/modernization of other nation’ vehicles.
I would dare to say it has more variety than Japan.
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I think the split is fine, though they should actually think about where the vehicles go then and not just let a wheel decide that Israel needs one more AFV
Slapping ERA/ composites on M-48s and M-60s dose not make them unique, neither dose giving things Hebrew names.
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Personally I’d put it with the USA, but I like having it split up for now, as there’s too many good choices and reasons.
Namer, Eitan, Achzarit, Sabrah, sherman/m113 hvms, Pereh, Carmel, etc…
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Add is as a subtree to Israel
Namer is a Merkava with an auto cannon, most of the others are just slight mods of USA stuff with a Hebrew name and even if we consider them fully unique that is still FAR less then even Japans post WW2 vehicles and nowhere near enough to justify a standalone tree.
I can put up with the idea that splitting Singapore vehicle to bring variety to different tech trees.But giving a spike/m113 to Israel tree make this theory like a joke. They just want to feed Israeli tree everything, it’s nothing about variety.
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Should be a United Korea tree
I can’t believe it’s been 3-4 years and people still haven’t taken in the fact that Israel has already been added and nothing about it will change. Israel has more options, both Military and privately owned companies, than Japan, or even Italy. Just deal with it and move on.
I have to say personally I do not care if Singaporean vehicles are added to Israel or not, but nevertheless, The Israeli tech tree in game needs a buff, and unique additions. Obviously this thing is not unique since Israel already has 3 Bushmaster + spike boxes. So it’s more of a “Hey we are done making this vehicle, where should we add it? Israel? Yeah sure they need more Shitty spike bushmaster sh*tboxes”
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Id accept it as a subtree of Central Europe TT
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3-4 years and still a pointless TT, keep coping.
A mistake is a mistake, no matter how long you ignore it, Israel TT was a mistake then, it’s a mistake now and in another 10 years it will still be a mistake
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